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Untitled Note Mon, Sep 30, 2024 12:00PM 1:28:33 SUMMARY KEYWORDS women, revolutionary, vote, war, education, african american women, change, work, freedom, husbands, white, states, people, men, colonial, african, indigenous women, prepare, law, republican Thank you. Applause. You Know, o...

Untitled Note Mon, Sep 30, 2024 12:00PM 1:28:33 SUMMARY KEYWORDS women, revolutionary, vote, war, education, african american women, change, work, freedom, husbands, white, states, people, men, colonial, african, indigenous women, prepare, law, republican Thank you. Applause. You Know, our books, Okay, good afternoon, good afternoon. I want us to go back into this. Discussion was the war revolutionary for women, and we ended class on Wednesday with some presentations addressing the role of what for what was the role that we ended our class addressing? Remember, education for women, and what was it? What was the education preparing women to be? What do we call that? Oh, the ones who raised Yes, the boys do what be Republican. So we called it. What role for women? Republican motherhood, good. So that's you're all right, education and so Republican motherhood was not a term that in the late century people use it's a term that historians have now given to this role for women that emerges. We had two presentations that addressed the different types of education that were being advocated for women. So Dr Rush was encouraging a broader education than previously had been available to women, but it wasn't as broad or as in depth as the education that Judith Sartre Murray was advocating for women, and they both were arguing for women to have access to education, and that was met with resistance, like, why bother? For some people, so they both need to be seen as supporters of female education, but they did so for different reasons. Who can emphasize for us the different reasons or different rationale? Because that's really significant. Why did Dr rush say it was a good idea to give women access to higher education than they previously had had, so that they can show that to their sons and prepare them for roles with those education topics, okay, so that they can do a good job raising their sons and prepare their son for the future role, yes, and especially, what new role is going to be important for these sons after the colonies succeed in gaining independence from Britain and set up a democratic, republican form of government, Political a political role, because we say that they developed what form of government? Republican government. Yeah, Democratic, Republican. And so it's not a true democracy, but we're not all making the decisions. But in a democracy, demos means people in Latin crossing refers to rule. The world viewed democracy the way we view anarchy today, it's not going to work. So if they're going to succeed with this democratic form of government, then they absolutely need to make sure that citizens are going to be prepared for future citizens future responsibilities, to be virtuous, to support the common good, to make wise, educated decisions when they vote. Who gets to be the citizens in this new democracy? Who are the citizens with the rights of citizenship? The citizenship, the men, men and white men. Colonial men, first born, first born. Okay, what do you mean by colonial men? Yadira, because slave like African men were not allowed. It's white men, white, predominantly white men. And here in North America, they're not as concerned if they're the first born, second born, third born, okay, yeah. But what do they have to have in order to qualify for voting property? And the property could be, it didn't have to just be like land. It could be wealth, money, and what was the reason for requiring that they meet the property requirements, this wealth requirement so they can contribute for taxes and financially, governments are always interested in our ability to pay taxes, but voting was not secret or private in that era, and so they want people to be financially independent to ensure that when they cast a vote, they were casting it according to their own thinking, that their employer or the person who owned the land upon which they labored. Was not getting a double vote today, when we cast our ballots, something comes in the mail to us. If you do it by absentee. We actually go to cast our ballot, they give us a little curtained area, and then we slide it into a machine, nobody should see how we're voting. That was not the case in the late 18th century. It was very visible, and so they needed to make sure that the individuals who were recognized as citizens had their own financial independence, so that nobody else had leveraged over them, worried about losing our job based upon how we vote, then we would vote the way our employer told us to vote. Yeah, so good. Then it's even a little bit more complicated. In the late 18th century, all of our colonies and then states had religious requirements. So people had to be male, free, financially independent, men in good standing with the official Church of that colony or state. And so in 1791 after we developed the US Constitution, and they add the Bill of Rights, the First Amendment is pretty important to us, right? We say our five freedoms. What is that first freedom in the first bill of rights, First Amendment, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of religion, freedom of press, right for assembly, freedom of religion. Today, we oftentimes take that to mean that we can worship the way we feel called to do so. In the 1791 it was government shall have not established any clause regarding religion, because they wouldn't agree upon what should be the official national religion. Okay, so government's not going to say you have to be a member of this particular congregation or religious denomination because they didn't all agree upon what that should be. But the thing with our constitution is it's developed in one era for one context, and then we see over time that citizens take those words and interpret them how we want them to apply to our lives today. And if the government doesn't agree, we hire attorneys or help attorneys volunteer and challenge it through the courts. So that's why we see those issues today. The issue of religion is being challenged now in courts, isn't it? What's going on in some states, not here in California, what are some states passing laws regarding religion and education? Sean, some school districts try to put like the 10 Commandments in classrooms. I think this whole state of Oklahoma has passed a law that the public schools must teach the 10 Commandments in the public schools, and even ministers in some of those smaller rural communities say they don't like that, because they recognize in their smaller rural communities that neighbors might all follow those 10 Commandments, but they don't interpret them all exactly the same way, and that's going to cause problems. Now, if you're asking the school teachers who aren't necessarily have that religious training that's unique to those specific denominations, but yeah, and so I think we're going to see that work its way through the courts and get challenged. So the courts will clarify, how does the First Amendment apply to this curriculum decision? So it continues to be an issue for us. I I also heard that some things going forward where women who who don't have the same birth last name can no longer vote. Is that a thing? Because someone, someone told me, like, Hey, did you hear and I was a no. Are you serious? So if your legal current name is not the same as on your birth certificate, you are no longer able to vote. I have to do more research on that. But is that okay? I have not heard that specifically, but I do know that there are states that are requiring identification, voter identification, so some states require that people provide proof of their identity. So it could be that if a woman or any person, really, they're born and given one name on their birth certificate, then when they marry and they take their spouse's last name, or they change their name, there's cases of where spouses combine their names, yeah, so that is a legal process where they change their legal identity. So maybe if they don't have an updated their identity card, then if they're in a state that requires that, and they go to prove that, they'll say that your identity is not matching, but I'm speculating there, here in California, when we go to vote, we do not have to provide that proof. You don't have to show them like your driver's license. We have to be registered, and then the county will send us the absentee ballot if we requested that, or if you go in person. And my own experience has been when I went in person, the people processing me, I would take notes on the ballot guide I received at home, and then they would just say, Hey, can I see that? Just to make sure I'm getting the right person? And I didn't mind showing it to them, but I could have said, No, this is my name. I'm on the list. And, you know, stood there, but people are waiting in line. Why would I do that? But, but California were different than some states, yeah. Okay, so the Republican motherhood leads to the creation of female academies, and I thought our presenters did a very good job of explaining how rush and Murray were different, right? So Rush is advocating prepare the suns for future citizenship. Very practical, utilitarian. Murray says, What? Why should women have access to a robust, full curriculum? So full curriculum. Why do women deserve that due to Such a party late 18th century? I uneducated woman is like an unpolished so women and men have equal intellectual pathways. So that's very different than a practical reason. And I asked you all, what would you like? Would you like the promotion that folks deserve access to higher education so that they can become employed taxpaying members of society, or folks have access to higher education because they're deserving to develop their full intellectual capacity entitled that? Pretty sure this class, most of you like the second argument that acknowledges your work and dignity. Okay, but who gets to be these educated Republican mothers in the late 18th century, early 19th century, whose families were to pay for them to get that education, rich white women, so money is important. While we do have education available in New England, especially more in New England, the education emphasized reading for both boys and girls, and then boys were encouraged to do some mathematics and writing study subjects of history, geography, philosophy, political thought, but not so much for girls. The academies and seminaries are now expanding beyond that, but there's no financial support for that, so the families had to pay for that. There is an example of a woman in Connecticut, prudence, Crandall in the early 19th century. She is white, and she promotes female education. So she opens a school, and she wants that school to be available to both African American and white students, girls, it's a Female Seminary. And do you know what the local residents say? You know why they say, if you continue to have that school operate, it will lower the value of our the value of our houses, and it'll lead to turmoil in our community. So they wanted her to close it. She resisted that. She continued to open it and run it. So pretty soon, white families aren't sending their daughters there. Wealthy African American families are sending their daughters there, and it gets to the point that her school gets attacked and started on fire, so she eventually closes it. And the Connecticut State obviously being attacked with fire, right? The State of Connecticut passes a law that says fire. Biracial schools can be operated as long as the local communities do not object. And so because the local community and prudence Crandall area objected, she didn't have legal foundation for rebuilding and starting from school again. So there's some people who are supporting expanding the access to education, but they're being met with a lot of resistance. Okay? And there was the unique situation of the voting opportunity for women in New Jersey in 1976 when they adopt their constitution, they enfranchise men and women, regardless of race, so long as in the case of women, they remain single, they have to be over the age of 21 and possess the wealth requirements, which was 50 counts. Why would you require them to have the wealth requirement of 50 counts? What purpose did that serve? What purpose did the 50 pound requirement serve? I Why did we it's like the property or the wealth requirement, what did what purpose did that serve? Yeah, okay, so they wanted people with some financial wherewithal. Why I'm hoping that maybe she's had more access to education, and if she has 50 pounds, is she financially dependent upon others? She's independent, right? And what's her vote going to be? Private so an employer? The house where she lived wouldn't be able to sit down picking her up, because they didn't work the way I wanted. So it ensured that that person was casting their vote. What's the legal identity for a woman who was single and over the age of 21 what do we call her? Under femcel fencil, could a Colbert qualify to vote? No? Why not? Because her husband would have to, as a belief was, then it would be giving her husband two votes, or her father two votes. And so in New Jersey, we have black and white women who meet these requirements voting, but only for about 30 years, and then there's conservatives kind of backlash, and women and African Americans lose that right to vote. So when I asked you to think about that broader question was the war revolutionary that is revolutionary in the late 18th century, that one state is enfranchising women, but it doesn't last. And so you need to think about what's your criteria for revolutionary in the moment, or are you expecting longer term change and permanent change, and after New Jersey repeals the voting rights for women, we won't see women qualified to vote anywhere in North America Under the leadership of the American flag until December of 1869 in the territory of Wyoming, no place, even though we're in democracy, women will not qualify to vote in state and fire elections. The one type of election that they will start letting women vote in is a very more local election with school boards, because school boards deal with the education of children, and that was recognized as women's business. Okay, so we know divorces become easier to obtain, but magistrates don't have to. They don't necessarily order men to pay alimony, so financially, women were at a disadvantage while there was the dowers right in the Revolutionary era, this was a legal right for women dower named after dowry dowers Right. This required that when husbands died in their wills, they left a minimum of 1/3 of their estate to go to their wives. Okay? And the reason for that is she would have come into the marriage with a dowry. He would have come in with financial contributions from his family, and then together, they would have accumulated well, and in California, we call that what, what a couple develops after they've married their financial call it community property. And so under British common law, women are entitled to a minimum of 1/3 husbands can leave their widest form, but it has to be a minimum of a third. And the reason for that is, of course, that's what she came in with. And does society want widows without any financial wherewithal? Because what would they be required to do? Then they would become an ALMS case. So it ensured their financial solvency to be supporting themselves. So film cover is still intact. I think for one population where it's come to Camilla to commit a huge change in legal status. It's the end of slavery in northern states for women to be considered chattel property to free. That is a huge change in legal status. Camilla is right. So Abigail Adams in 1776 wrote a letter to her husband, John, while they were debating whether or not this should be considered a war for independence. And by the way, in the new code of law, which I suppose it will be necessary for you to make I desire you would remember the ladies and be more generous and favorable to them than your ancestors. So the question that we're going to discuss in this activity is, was the war revolutionary for women and the populations were African American, Native American and white colonial women? Did it bring about radical changes, significant changes, and I caution you against only thinking about that in terms of producing positive changes. Just think of revolutionary as significant. This one didn't have the one. So just because things are against the law, does that always ensure that people follow the laws? I know that this is a very innocent class, and you may think so it actually doesn't. So Phyllis learns how to read and write and publishes poems that focus on the themes of the revolutionary leadership. So she drafts some beautiful poems in tribute to George Washington. Some of the most crazy writing about Washington are drafted by Felicity and enslaved woman. Many of her poems and writing also espouse the Christian faith. The wheatleys support her writing. They're very impressed with how sharp Her mind is, how quickly she learns she travels to London. People recognize her as an international author. At the end of the war, she is free. Northern States either abolish slavery right away or create the gradual process for man commission. And Phyllis marries a free African American man. They have three children, but there she dies in the 1830s and by at the time of her death, she is working in a boarding house, essentially doing domestic work. So while she gained freedom in the Revolutionary era, the question that her case oftentimes provokes is how free was free for Phyllis Wheatley, what economic opportunities were available to her and her children. So it's significant to say a person has gone from being treated as property to being free. But what did that freedom mean? And was that a revolutionary change in her status? Okay, so let us look at who folks signed up for and two notes on how did specific populations of women status change. And we will get into groups to share that. And this will be a participation at the end, I will ask you to prepare a statement. Did the war bring about revolutionary changes for women? And you do consider our diverse population of women in North America? So we have today. Sarah is here, Sage is here, Georgia, Natalia Camilla is here. Siana, Savannah Brenda is here. Breanna Devi is here. Risa Sean is here. Mesa, Lauren Orlando, calametti is here. Milo Danielle Harris, Scotty Kyah is here. Adira is here. Harmon is here. Bree Johnson, Kira Victoria. Four is here. Isabella is here. Mary Lasher, Wendy Lugo, Wendy George here, Lexi, Adriana, Toby is here, Caroline, Sarah, strella, sudai, Michael is here and Josepha is here. Good. All right, so for this activity, each took notes from Chapter Three on how women's puck status changed. Is what was the population status before the war? Were there any significant changes to their status during the war? Did that have an impact on the outcome and then after the war, approximately the 30 year period? So this would be that the content focused on Chapter Three plus from the notes you think about so Breanna Devi and Yadira, you signed up for African American women, and are you prepared to share? Yes, okay, so just raise your hands for a minute. And then Michael and Kaya, you signed up for Indigenous women. Are you prepared to share? And then Sean and Georgia, you signed up for white women, raise your hand so the six of you over here would be a good place. Once I say to get started, you'll assemble here to share. Okay? And what you do in this activity is you just take notes on what each other shared, then discuss. I think this was revolutionary because of this evidence. Okay? Then Adriana is Adriana. Here Wendy is here Wendy on African American and Natalia. You'll be with Wendy and Sarah and siana, white women and Mesa white women. Okay, so the six of you will be together in just a minute when I say go and then for Victoria, African American women, Carmen, African American women, raise your hands and then George and Caroline, indigenous women. So you'll be with Victoria and Carmen and sage and Lexi sage. Alexei on white women, so the six of you will work together. Okay, then got me not here. Okay, sudai and Camila, two coats on African American women. Notes on African American women and Isabella and Savannah. You took notes on Indigenous women and Orlando and Debbie's not here, so Orlando on white women. So it'll be a group of five, okay? And African American woman, and got me. And then Danielle Harris, good indigenous woman, and I will get that would be a much smaller group. With your name? Come see me If I skipped over your Name? Comparison? Are We? Yeah, I? Hi, everyone for our reading, the African women, some of the key or some of the things that happened during all of this going on was mostly negative and positive. And I say that because these colonial women were well to what I read, they were very proud to say, Oh, we support, you know, not consuming their food for tax evasions and stuff like that. But what they were doing is they were forcing their slaves to do the work that they were taking credit. So yes, on the surface it looked like they were supporting and doing all of this. But really the people, or the women doing all the work were the African men. It was really something that caught my attention was it was most, mostly negative for them, because during this time they obviously faced, you know, starvation and stuff like that. Everyone, the entire population, however, the needs of the slaves were not cared for because they were seen as low priority, like their needs were low priority. So I guess that's mostly the negative that I looked at. The positive is there was more room for the African women to kind of get closer to their masters. They ended up learning some different things, different trades, because they were strictly tending to the farm or strictly cooking and singing. But due to this, they were able to pick up other hobbies or other ways to get looked at more positively from their masters. Something really negative that happened after the war as well is the smallpox outbreak, and once again, because they were seen less important than the colonial white women, a lot of them died. 55,000 slaves escaped during the revolution and during the war. Do you have anything about 55,000 they escaped like freedom. They escaped for freedom. And African American thought they will have more freedom in British but not really. They face harsh, harsh conditions, and they work for there's not a lot of positive things. There's a lot of negative things about African Americans. Yeah, so I don't, I don't think it was revolutionary for the African American women, because, like I said, and like Brianna said, there was not a lot of positive things that came out of it, like all this education that we're hearing about is mostly all for Colonial women, the African women didn't have the funds, didn't have the support they see. They were seen as lower priority, not important. So it was not revolutionary for them. I think the worst part of it happened after the war, because, like we saw in World War One and stuff like that, because they're trying to make up for all that expenses during the war and all of that, there's less, less things like food and clothes and people are scrambling more public and obviously the African women Their needs didn't matter. What about Business? Yes, I mean, some areas that it was a lot of violence in conflict between the natives and then The settlers. Exactly. It here, emotional, but it says like, so I think after, I think like, because when we say after 30 years, it says that they started to Like, legal reforms, begin to recognize Business Women's Rights. After the third years, they would fight back for their land and stuff, they started caring about education and employment. With your research, did you see anything on there about them going back to their way of life or like? What happened like? Because oftentimes they were raped right by the men. They were raped and they ended up looking down, being looked down upon because they have children and stuff like that. Did that ever change? Or was that just their form? Just type it up. To get there. Okay, it says there was a resurgence and cultural pride and identity among indigenous peoples and women played a crucial role in preserving language, so they kept some of their language, some of their traditions and some of their practices, yeah. Okay, so revolutionary or not, a little bit of both. In some ways it was revolutionary. It was they probably got, like a little bit on that day. Really so white women, like richer white women, rich or white women and when their husbands left, they went not really having control or power around the house, and suddenly having their bedroom station wrapped. It's a little bit hard to suddenly go back so much power. It's like just as well. So there was a lot of there's pushback to that. And then Richard White, pushback to raise their voters or higher educated. So summarize, all of North America. It didn't really identify that and the stuff that I did was a lot. It didn't really, it wasn't revolutionary in laws for women that helped women gain a lot of independence for their own self. We saw Liberty daughters who boycotted British goods and like what you said about slaves having them too, but it was women who took authority in refusing tea and making their own clothes, and they also signed a proper nation to support non important resolutions. In that effort, you also had women in war who were camp followers, who helped act as nurses and cooks, and then you had husbands, which were women who stayed behind while their husbands were at war and basically took over businesses and farms. And it often led to husbands trusting their wives judgment more than asking them to seek other male neighbors for help after the war, I think the most notable law that helped women was they allowed women to seek divorce, which wasn't previously allowed. So that's really the only thing that happens afterwards, aside from the Republican motherhood. So I think with everything is kind of good things and bad things. I don't think I mean I unless I don't understand the word revolution, like, how has a big change? Yeah, yeah. Because I didn't see a huge change. They didn't really explain about African American like, what's the big war change? Yeah, they kind of, they kind of went in the sections for African, African women, how, you know, depending on where they were. They had a little bit more freedom or more rights than in the north or the east. You know, it just depended on where you were at, their culture, their traditions. It wasn't like, like he said, straight across the board, needs change policy, and I think honestly, the ones who reaped more positive is the colonial white women, whether they were rich or poor, they had way more freedom and rights liberty than the Indigenous women and the African women, because at the end of the day, the African women were still enslaved for years. Indigenous women uprooted their entire life and had to adapt to colonial lifestyles, getting raped all the time, not getting appreciated. And the colonial women kind of took on the role of like an ideal, and I think that's where, that's where it became about the color of your scandrian. Do y'all remember when she was going into it the PowerPoint saying that images or paintings were often portrayed like with clear light skin or their hair texture, because it was seemed as if being lighter or being like them was a bully. That's what I enjoyed harsh conditions, so instead of receiving freedom and land, freedom and land, thank you guys. So much for your input, some people were transported to education is a higher social status. You said it didn't apply to everyone. Women gained a little bit more independence. Husbands seek spouses more due to their given independence, with them having to stay back and keep everything running, and then women were able to seek divorce. Works, rights or tobacco in lower latitudes, southern states do not use to end slavery, but northern states do either right away when they see adopt their constitutions or through a process of what's called gradual ammunition. Does anyone here have Verizon? No since this morning, since this morning, my phone has been in SOS mode, so I can't use it unless I'm connected to Wi Fi. So me. I looked it up and it said that they don't know what the issue is, but if, like, all of Verizon is down, SOS since this morning, so the Wi Fi doesn't work. I don't have Wi Fi here. I only get Wi Fi over there by The unless it's a different Wi Fi. I'm changing cell phone carriers, I just needed a reason why this is it. Did you guys all read all of chapter three, or just your brief part? I chapter three. Chapter Three was about the club. Even chatgpt doesn't know as Yeah, it's basically what we said. Each had their own good and bad. None of them were really revolutionary. I think the main benefited the most because I didn't really see women as independent. Baffle anyways, yeah, so most of their laws that they regrow were just for the men. Was your drink? Good kind of No, it's too much. Yeah, I expected it to be green because you said chai tea latte, ice chai latte. So it's gonna be like, light brown. It's not green. Yeah? When you text me that, I was like, oh, it's gonna be green. It's one of those green drinks, no? And then they said that they didn't have any cinnamon, yeah? She was like, we don't have that anymore. I was like, okay, she said it's out of season now. I was like, Okay, well, do what you do. I was like, I hope it's good. Yeah, my favorite was the macadamia chocolate cold brew. That's my favorite, and it's out of style too, so I had to get a Java chip. Yeah, yeah, everything's Oh. It's the time of year time of year when everything we have pizza. I never wanted to try it. Don't choose if they can pumpkin spice. They will, yeah, something, pumpkin spice, something the other day. Sometimes drive past this like break and tire shot that they had tires Exactly, exactly they get it. I What did we do? Last Wednesday, I was asked, I thought we tried this activity. We had two presentations. Probably yeah, I came and I did the presentation with Brianna, and then I left. That's the only reason why I was here, because there's a presentation. How was your you? Were you presented? Right? You two presented? Yeah. Can't say that. It was confusing. They were so it was confusing because we thought, no, it was the other person, because she contributed. What is yours? I wanted to get it over with. The only thing that I'm not gonna lie was really hard, was writing the dang essay. Because what to my understanding, we were only supposed to use that letter, and everything about the letter was so redundant, like we had to keep on repeating the same theme. Struggling with the essay. Yeah, I turned in two and a half pages. No, it was three and a half. No one. No way. To her about it because I just turned when did I turn in my essay? Friday, on Sunday. Yeah, it was yesterday. No, it was on Saturday. It was like around at night. I was supposed to turn it in Wednesday. I don't know if she is. I just submitted it she has, but you have 24 hours grace. Time here, Grace, yeah, so I had to turn it in Wednesday. So Thursday was my 24 hours, but I turned it in Friday, you should be fine. When is there like the historical reflections due on October 15? Okay, and you have 24 hours, great. So it will be due on october 14, nice. So I got two weeks. No, I think it's like the right past years of the exam, except we just do it at home instead of doing it. How do we see the questions? I think she gives, but she said, You guys can start doing part one. So basically, for part one, you can read from a sign, reading from chapter three, you read and you put quote that sent out to you, yeah, do you have a paper? Yeah, so I basically said you're supposed to have been going against and you have to explain why is that? Sign up to you, so don't do part two yet. She said you can do part one. Do I have that? I should have that. Yeah, you should have that. You three documentary analysts, you're supposed to Bring personal reflection. Oh, yeah, Yeah. Photograph, This better. I I thought with the iPhone, you were supposed to be able to iMessage and FaceTime with Wi Fi, even if you didn't have service. My phone is can I see your settings? I text you about what the heck? Oh, it FaceTime or anything it's going through. You needed Wi Fi to Yeah, I was connected. So if you don't have Wi Fi, it's not gonna send the message. It's not gonna deliver at home. It wasn't working, and I can't FaceTime anybody either. You I try at least the text message, yeah, not face time you have WhatsApp. Whatsapp better for us, it needs to get it together. I paid too much for this. I think AT T is better than yeah, I've had Verizon because when I joined the military, I needed it for traveling overseas with the Wi Fi, or they had an international plan that was really good, so that's why I switched over. So for 10 years I've had Verizon, but I Want T Mobile. I heard people say that's better. Yeah, all, yeah, I had sprint, but Now it's under Table. Everything's under table now. You mean your signal? Yeah, I have iPhone. I've had iPhone for years, but I want Samsung map, the ultra that phone is sweet. I want that phone so bad. I'm just waiting for the new one to come out. I think I already came out. Actually, I want to get iPhone 15. Yeah, I had that was in eighth grade. Oh yeah. And my mom's like, why you need a new phone? At least it's working. I'm like, right? This is why I want a new phone. Oh, my, kids, but at least it doesn't show if you have a case on. At least it's working barely the camera. Sometimes it's blurry, sometimes it's black, Sometimes sometime in glitch, yeah, I I think your husband's like sent from The email. It's not from the actual phone number. I i swear really funny. It's time to get new one. I got it on Amazon for $7 I think that's nice, and it comes with a screen protector too. Yeah, I got this case from Amazon. I have a group protection, so I'm not, I'm not using green protector, so if I drop it, but it did actually, but that's okay, at least, let me make her think I'm it's time to get new phone. How's this group? Have you answered the question, was the war revolutionary for North America's diverse population? Yes and no, because it wasn't for African African women. There were some good and bad things, but mostly bad that came from it. I don't know if that was a task or if collectively, was it revolutionary? Was that your question? Yeah, and so you are showing what, what is complicated about that question, because I'm asking you to answer that question while considering all of North America's population and revolutionary means significant change in status. It doesn't necessarily mean better or worse. It was overall, there's a significant change in women's status. Yes, and you don't all have to draw that same conclusion, okay? What evidence let you answer that question with assurance? What led you to that conclusion? What women had more equality, Michael, especially the elite, white women, what are they? What are they getting after the war, a lot more freedom, a lot more education, right, more status, status change, access to education, status change. Yeah, even poor white women, as the economy is developing, they aren't jobs that we would be excited about taking today, but they're seeing access to more jobs, which gives them an economic independence. Okay, consider the fact that women Black were white in New Jersey, who were femme soles and could vote. Is that revolutionary that that was after Yeah, seven. Well, 1776, they started during the war, and it lasts until 1807. Very few places could we find where women are voting in the late 18th century? Yeah, but Are any of you like wanting to see a revolutionary change as something that's more permanent, and the fact that women lose it causes you to say, not so revolutionary, just temporary, because if it changes back to how it was before, then like there's really no change. So you're looking for more permanent change. Prior, and I was looking more positive change. I saw more negative than positive for our group, for African American, they tried to look for freedom, but they don't have a lot of freedom. They suffer a lot. Where did, where did African American women gain freedom. After the Revolutionary War, a lot escaped, but in the freedom, the freedom that we're talking about, that we saw was where they were able to pick up more tasks or more jobs and become closer to their masters by, you know, being more efficient or being able to help them out more. That's the freedom that I saw. Okay, so the way slavery evolves in southern states, what happens in northern states is that slavery is abolished. So people go from being classified as property to free some people, like mom bed, who later claims the name Elizabeth Freeman, sues for her freedom in Massachusetts, Massachusetts, and instantly now she's free. Other states pass what's called gradual Manumission, a gradual process, so eventually slavery will end. So that is a significant change, alright, so folks, it looks like most of you have had a chance to share, and I made it around to almost all the groups. Was this revolutionary or not, and your full group doesn't have to agree. The idea would be what evidence leads you to that conclusion. And so to get that evidence, people took notes from Chapter Three of the textbook, and then this lecture on the Revolutionary War is where a lot of that information is held. What I also want to share with you is our first historical reflection that is due on Sunday, October 13. Asks you to analyze a part two interpretive question, and I've given you the choice. Hopefully it shows up here in a minute. I so while that is starting to work, I can do it ever so slowly. Maybe our home is getting dim. It is under Assignments in our canvas. Do Oh, wow, we're having problems, but here we go to assignments, historical reflection number one. And so you prepare the three golden nuggets. These are three quoted sentences, and you give about three sentences about why each one resonated with you. And then the part two is where you prepare a three paragraph interpretive response. So I've given you two choices. Choice A, we're going to do an activity next week about the first women's rights convention, and there's a question addressing that. So you may want to do your part two question on that. If you want to do your part two response on choice B, you basically are ready to do that. And it is, was the war for independence, revolutionary for all, for all women of North America, for all Women of North America. And you use the evidence that you just shared here in this class, and it's essentially from the lecture and from chapter three, to answer that question, so you can begin preparing that now, if you would like. So just show me by a show of hands, how many people have decided that yes, overall, you would call it revolutionary, thinking of it as significant. 1-234-567-8910, 1112, 1314, revolutionary. How many of you say no, it doesn't satisfy your criteria to be considered a revolution, one, kind of two, kind of three, four, overall. This class is thinking revolutionary, but some people are cautious. Who wants to share why? Why you think it was overall, considered a revolution. What was the most convincing evidence to you to draw that conclusion? I i Just share, we're also kind of formulating our ideas, but I think it will help other people to hear someone's reasoning. Kelly, I think it was resolution. Educated because these other children that so I appreciate Toby's analysis is that it started the process for women to gain more rights and opportunities and education. While it might first apply to the narrow Indian group, it has expanded anyone. Why were you kind of cautious to say, No, I don't think so. Adira. The reason why is because I saw the like I interpreted the word revolutionary as in, like a positive change or a positive movement. When what I looked for my my group, the African women, it was mostly negative. Yes, after they got a little bit more freedom, but mostly, everything that I was reading was negative. So you thought of revolutionary as needed to be a positive change, not necessarily just significant. Yes, if you now choose that to be significant, does that reevaluate your answer yes, because, like you described, a rebel, revolutionary, is a change of status, not just for the good or not just for the bad, but definitely it impact. It impacted all women, regardless of their social status, in a either negative or positive way, but it was a change. Okay, so, so, a significant change. Yes, thank you. All right. So on Wednesday, we have Harriet Jacobs presentation, we have history of prostitution presentation, and I Yes, William senator and Harriet Jacobs presentations this Wednesday. So if you have questions about that, Stick around. Otherwise, we rose. Thank you. Applause. Excuse me, sorry I sentences. So one sentence, maybe it's from the textbook page 117, and now in three sentences, you explain why that was significant to you. About three like, give me some detail, and what I don't want is just, oh, it's sad women couldn't do that, like this, like, explain. Why is that so important to you? Yeah, okay. LRC, I will get over there. Yeah, yeah, I don't get it's in room 160 Yeah. So I'll try to get there by 130 Okay, actually, the restroom first. Wait for me if I'm Not right there. Yeah. Quiz. Yeah. Up. Really good. Sometimes I mumble, What's better? So Why I No, oh, looking for LRC, no. LRC, thank you. Are you going? LRC, no, oh, I have a microbiology class. Oh, yeah, you ready for that? So hard. What is it about? Like? I mean, I know it's bacteria, germs, like more science, yes. I out. Bye. Thank you. Or, 160 I'm Sorry it was confusing. Do you have an appointment with black to do? No, it's like a it's like you review something. It. Do you have an appointment? No 160 This is the 160 area. Okay, thank you. Sit there and wait for the teacher to come. Is it? She's not 162 Let me check. It might be, yeah, I'll check on the canvas. Uh huh, thank you guys. So just hang out here. Are you a little early? Yes, okay, yes, okay, just hang out. Okay, okay, thank So just hang out here. Are you a little early? Yes, okay, yes, okay, just hang out. Okay, okay, thank you. You're welcome. So