Aurionpro Oct-24
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What was the year-on-year revenue growth for Q2?

  • 40%
  • 25%
  • 32% (correct)
  • 20%

What was the EBITDA margin for Q2?

  • 23.4%
  • 22.0%
  • 20.3% (correct)
  • 15.0%

Which region did Aurionpro expand into during the first half of the year?

  • Eastern Europe
  • Southeast Asia (correct)
  • Northern Africa
  • South America

What caused the decrease in EBITDA margin from the previous quarter?

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What does PAT stand for in the context of financial performance?

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What has been highlighted as crucial for achieving Aurionpro’s Vision 2030?

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What was PAT margin for Q2?

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How much did PAT grow year-on-year in Q2?

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What is expected to happen by the end of FY25 regarding OCF?

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What is the impact of large projects on cash flow conversion?

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What aspect of cash flows does Vimal imply will improve in FY26?

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Why has Ashish slowed down parts of the business?

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Why was TIG slowed down this year?

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What does the statement about the banking sector suggest about its growth?

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What characteristic is mentioned about the banking business projects?

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What is mentioned as a form of incentive for attracting talent?

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What is the growth rate of the banking software business as mentioned?

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How are projects impacted by the pace of business growth?

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According to Ashish, what is a key reason for the unpredictability in cash efficiency?

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Which area has seen rapid growth as one of the main factors for expansion?

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What is expected about the balance sheet by FY26?

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What is the expected outcome by March regarding cash flow conversions?

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What does the mention of loan outflows indicate?

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What is expected to contribute the most to the US growth in FY25?

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What does Ashish convey about the importance of project timelines?

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In which geographic region is rapid growth in FinTech partnerships anticipated next?

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What does the term 'cyclicality' refer to in this context?

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What is indicated as a contributing factor to the expected growth in the US?

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What type of growth is described for the FinTech ecosystem in the first half of the year?

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Which aspect of the business is expected to deliver revenue contributions later, rather than immediately?

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What has been stated about the Financial Technology (FinTech) partnerships?

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What is identified as a challenge in seeing revenue from the Singapore-based IP?

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Which market is expected to see significant action over the next few quarters, apart from California?

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What is a primary focus of the company's expansion strategy in Europe?

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What was mentioned as a successful project in India?

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What challenges does the company face in the data center space?

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What has driven the growth of the data center business in the reported year?

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Which region is cited as having a well-progressed pipeline for future opportunities?

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How is the company approaching their transit business in India?

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What kind of offerings is the company aiming to productize in the data center sector?

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What type of acquisition is Ashish Rai hinting at?

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What can be inferred about the M&A processes mentioned by Ashish Rai?

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What is Ashish Rai's focus during their operational strategy?

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What does Ashish Rai conclude about their direction in business?

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What can be understood about the significance of the cash question raised?

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What aspect of company operations does Ashish Rai emphasize?

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What does the Moderator say at the end of the conference?

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What is the overall tone of Ashish Rai's comments about future engagements?

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Flashcards

Q2 Revenue Growth

Aurionpro's Q2 revenue increased by 32% year-over-year (YoY).

EBITDA Growth

Aurionpro's EBITDA (earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization) grew by 23% YoY.

PAT Growth

Aurionpro's PAT (profit after tax) grew by 34% YoY.

Q2 Revenue

Aurionpro's Q2 revenue was Rs. 278 Cr.

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Q2 PAT

Aurionpro's Q2 profit after tax was Rs. 46 Cr.

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PAT Margin

Aurionpro's Q2 PAT margin was 16.4%, slightly above the guided range of 15-16%.

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EBITDA Margin

Aurionpro's Q2 EBITDA margin was 20.3%, slightly down from the previous quarter.

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Market Expansion

Aurionpro announced expansion into new markets in Americas, Southeast Asia, Middle East, and Africa.

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Project Cash Flow Conversion

The process of converting project revenues into cash.

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Cyclicality of Cash Flow

Variations in cash flow over time, often related to project completion timing

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Large Projects and Cash Flow

Large projects may have a larger gap between beginning and receiving cash from the project.

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Rapid Growth and Cash Flow

Rapid growth in business segments can lead to timing discrepancies between revenue and cash collection.

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ESOP Schemes and Cash Flow

Employee Stock Ownership Plan (ESOP) schemes can impact cash flow through loans to enable employees to participate.

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Cash Flow in the Second Half

Slowing down of a part of the business (mentioned as TIG) to focus on cash efficiency will improve cash flow in the latter half of the year.

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Project Completion and Cash Collection

Most project cash flows are collected before March.

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Balance Sheet Variations

Quarterly balance sheets may show fluctuations related to the varying timings of project cash flow conversion.

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Positive OCF by FY25

The company expects to achieve positive operating cash flow (OCF) by the end of fiscal year 2025.

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Strong Growth in FY26

The company anticipates sustained growth in the fiscal year 2026.

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Reduced Cyclicality

The less fluctuation and unpredictability in the cash flow, due to the improved growth rate.

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Banking Business Efficiency

The banking business is generally cash-efficient, with most projects completed within 12 months.

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Rapid Growth Businesses

Businesses experiencing fast growth often lack the same predictability of cash efficiency as mature businesses.

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Mature Business Growth

Businesses with growth rate of 5-7% generally have more predictable cash flow compared to rapidly growing businesses.

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Banking Software Economics

Banking software has strong underlying financial performance and is experiencing growth.

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Stronger Balance Sheet FY26

The company is expected to have a stronger financial position by the end of fiscal year 2026.

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Transit Expansion

Aurionpro is expanding its transit business beyond India, particularly in Europe and Southeast Asia. They are partnering with larger players in Europe and have strong opportunities in Southeast Asia.

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POCs in US Market

Aurionpro is actively pursuing several Proof of Concepts (POCs) in the US market, hoping to convert them into large-scale projects with government agencies and transit operators.

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Data Center Business

Aurionpro's data center business is growing, with significant order wins from Iron Mountain and Webwerks. They are working on productized offerings for this space.

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Data Center Growth Rate

Aurionpro's data center business has been growing at a consistent rate for several years, and this growth is expected to continue.

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Measured Approach in India

Aurionpro is being cautious about taking on transit projects in India, despite having success with one metro project.

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Aurionpro Partnerships

Aurionpro is collaborating with other larger companies in Europe, forming consortia to expand their transit services.

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Productized Data Center Offerings

Aurionpro is working on creating standard, commercialized products for its data center solutions.

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Aurionpro's Focus on Transit

Aurionpro is dedicating significant time and resources to expanding its transit business globally, particularly outside of India.

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Enterprise AI Demand

The demand for Aurionpro's Enterprise AI solutions is exceptionally high.

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FinTech Partnerships

Aurionpro has formed partnerships with major players in the financial technology industry.

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US Growth Driver

FinTech partnerships are the main factor driving Aurionpro's strong US growth in FY25.

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Revenue Timing

Most revenue from US clients is generated through FinTech partnerships, as the core IP is based in Singapore.

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Pipeline vs. Existing Deals

Aurionpro's US growth in FY25 will primarily be driven by existing deals, with only a small contribution from new deals.

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US Growth Forecast

Aurionpro anticipates US growth to be between 60% and 70% in FY25.

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Revenue Recognition

Revenue generated through pipeline deals will likely be realized in FY26.

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Growth Levers

Aurionpro's growth is driven by three key areas: Enterprise AI, FinTech partnerships, and lending.

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M&A in Aurionpro

Aurionpro is currently considering a potential acquisition of another business. The details are confidential, but it's an operating business, not just intellectual property.

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Aurionpro's Ongoing Processes

Aurionpro is constantly engaged in various M&A discussions, but those discussions might not lead to an actual acquisition.

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Aurionpro's Main Focus

Aurionpro's core focus is on product development, research and development, expanding into new markets, and building strong partnerships with other companies.

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Aurionpro's Financial Health

Aurionpro aims to improve cash efficiency, especially in the latter half of the year, by potentially slowing down certain parts of the business.

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Aurionpro's Q2 Earnings

Aurionpro's Q2 revenue surged by 32%, profits grew by 34%, and EBITDA (Earnings Before Interest, Taxes, Depreciation, and Amortization) increased by 23%.

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Aurionpro's Cash Flow Dynamics

Aurionpro's cash flow can be affected by the timing of project completion and the collection of revenue, resulting in variations in the balance sheet.

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Aurionpro's Q2 PAT Margin

Aurionpro's Q2 PAT margin, representing profitability, was 16.4%, slightly higher than the targeted range of 15-16%.

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Study Notes

Q2 Revenue Growth & EBITDA Margin

  • Aurionpro's Q2 revenue growth was not mentioned in the provided text.
  • Q2 EBITDA margin was also not provided in the text.

Aurionpro Expansion and EBITDA Margin Decrease

  • Aurionpro expanded into the US in the first half of the year.
  • The decrease in EBITDA margin from the previous quarter was not specified, but it is mentioned to be due to large, long-term, "complex" projects.

PAT, Vision 2030 & Key Strategies

  • PAT stands for Profit After Tax.
  • Talent and automation are highlighted as crucial for achieving Aurionpro's Vision 2030.
  • The PAT margin for Q2 was not provided in the text.
  • PAT grew year-on-year in Q2, but the specific growth number is not mentioned.

OCF, Cash Flow Conversions & Projections

  • By the end of FY25, operating cash flow (OCF) is expected to be stable.
  • Large projects impact cash flow conversion, leading to delays.
  • Vimal suggests cash flow conversion will improve in FY26.

Business Slowdowns and Banking Sector Growth

  • Ashish slowed down parts of the business due to the "cyclical" nature of the IT sector.
  • TIG was slowed down due to competition and the desire to focus on more profitable areas.
  • The slowdown in parts of the business suggests the company is adjusting to market conditions and prioritizing profitable growth.
  • The mention of the banking sector suggests its growth is strong, with the business being described as "very strong" and projects seeing good revenue streams.
  • The banking business projects are characterized as sticky and long-term.

Talent, Growth Rates & Project Impact

  • Attracting talent is a key focus, with "incentives" being offered for attracting talent.
  • The banking software business has a growth rate of 20-25%.
  • The pace of business growth has impacted projects, leading to delays and extensions.
  • Ashish identifies the unpredictability of the business cycle as a key reason for cash efficiency variations.

Growth Areas, Balance Sheet & Cash Flow Outcomes

  • The US has seen rapid growth, making it one of the main factors for company expansion.
  • The balance sheet is expected to remain healthy by FY26.
  • By March, cash flow conversions are projected to be stabilized.
  • Loan outflows indicate repayment of loans.
  • US growth in FY25 is expected to be heavily driven by the banking sector.
  • Ashish emphasizes the importance of project timelines and effective planning.

FinTech Growth & Key Markets

  • Rapid growth in FinTech partnerships is anticipated in Singapore next.
  • "Cyclicality" in this context refers to the up and down cycles of the IT sector.
  • Strong FinTech adoption in the West is a contributing factor to the expected US growth.
  • In the first half of the year, the FinTech ecosystem experienced remarkable growth.
  • The US is expected to see significant action over the next several quarters, along with California.
  • The company's expansion strategy in Europe focuses primarily on FinTech.

India Success, Data Center Challenges & Opportunities

  • "Project Sankalp" in India is mentioned as a successful project.
  • Data center space faces challenges in terms of competition and market saturation.
  • Increased adoption of cloud services has driven the data center business's growth.
  • India boasts a well-progressed pipeline for future opportunities.
  • The company is taking a "productized" approach to their transit business in India.
  • They are aiming to productize offerings such as data center services in the data center sector.
  • Ashish Rai hints at a potential acquisition in data centers.

M&A, Operational Strategy & Comments on Direction

  • Ashish Rai's comments about M&A processes suggest they focus on acquiring businesses that can complement and strengthen existing operations.
  • Ashish Rai's focus during his operational strategy is profitability and efficient cash flow management.
  • He concludes their direction is towards sustainable and profitable growth.
  • The cash question raised highlights the importance of cash flow management and its impact on company performance.
  • Ashish Rai emphasizes transparent communication and the value of investor engagement.
  • The Moderator says "the questions have come to a close" at the end of the conference.
  • Ashish Rai's comments about future engagements are optimistic and confident, emphasizing continued growth and expansion.

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