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According to the speaker, the Lutheran Christology is not problematic.
According to the speaker, the Lutheran Christology is not problematic.
False
Christ's post-resurrection body has the same attributes as a human body.
Christ's post-resurrection body has the same attributes as a human body.
False
The Incarnation does not modify the humanity of Christ.
The Incarnation does not modify the humanity of Christ.
False
The Reformed critique of Lutheran Christology is not a significant one.
The Reformed critique of Lutheran Christology is not a significant one.
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Luther builds his Christology on the basis of his view of the Lord's Supper.
Luther builds his Christology on the basis of his view of the Lord's Supper.
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For Zwingli, the Eucharist is primarily a sacrament.
For Zwingli, the Eucharist is primarily a sacrament.
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The speaker thinks that Christian orthodoxy is the sum total of the problems you can't live with.
The speaker thinks that Christian orthodoxy is the sum total of the problems you can't live with.
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The speaker has never debated his friend Carl Beckwith on stage.
The speaker has never debated his friend Carl Beckwith on stage.
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According to Luther, the phrase 'this is my body' should be interpreted literally.
According to Luther, the phrase 'this is my body' should be interpreted literally.
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The Lutheran and Reformed views on the real presence of Christ's body and blood in the Eucharist are the same.
The Lutheran and Reformed views on the real presence of Christ's body and blood in the Eucharist are the same.
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The communicatio idiomatum refers to the communication of attributes between the divine and human natures of Christ.
The communicatio idiomatum refers to the communication of attributes between the divine and human natures of Christ.
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The Reformed tradition affirms the direct communication of properties between the human and divine natures of Christ.
The Reformed tradition affirms the direct communication of properties between the human and divine natures of Christ.
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The debate between Luther and Zwingli at Marburg concerned the nature of salvation.
The debate between Luther and Zwingli at Marburg concerned the nature of salvation.
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Luther's Christology emphasizes the unity of the divine and human natures of Christ.
Luther's Christology emphasizes the unity of the divine and human natures of Christ.
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The Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed is not relevant to the Christological debates between Lutherans and Reformed.
The Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed is not relevant to the Christological debates between Lutherans and Reformed.
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The Lutheran-Reformed debates on the Eucharist do not have implications for understanding the nature of Christ's post-resurrection body.
The Lutheran-Reformed debates on the Eucharist do not have implications for understanding the nature of Christ's post-resurrection body.
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According to Luther, Christ's human nature becomes omnipresent.
According to Luther, Christ's human nature becomes omnipresent.
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The Reformed tradition accepts the Lutheran view of the communication of Christ's attributes.
The Reformed tradition accepts the Lutheran view of the communication of Christ's attributes.
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Drinking a latte from the Grace Coffee store is a gospel action in the same way as taking the Lord's Supper.
Drinking a latte from the Grace Coffee store is a gospel action in the same way as taking the Lord's Supper.
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According to the Lutheran view, Christ's body and blood are present in the cup of coffee.
According to the Lutheran view, Christ's body and blood are present in the cup of coffee.
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The Reformed tradition believes that Christ's human nature is locally circumscribed.
The Reformed tradition believes that Christ's human nature is locally circumscribed.
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The Lutheran view of Christ's attributes makes Christ into a tertium quid, according to the Reformed tradition.
The Lutheran view of Christ's attributes makes Christ into a tertium quid, according to the Reformed tradition.
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The Hypostatic Union is a concept that describes the union of Christ's human and divine natures.
The Hypostatic Union is a concept that describes the union of Christ's human and divine natures.
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Christ's post-resurrection body is no longer locally circumscribed, according to Lutheran Christology.
Christ's post-resurrection body is no longer locally circumscribed, according to Lutheran Christology.
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In 1523, Zwingli rejects the mass of sacrifice in light of Christ's sacrifice on Calvary.
In 1523, Zwingli rejects the mass of sacrifice in light of Christ's sacrifice on Calvary.
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Cornelis Hearn is a Lutheran theologian.
Cornelis Hearn is a Lutheran theologian.
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Zwingli attributes his understanding of symbolic language to Cornelis Hearn's letter.
Zwingli attributes his understanding of symbolic language to Cornelis Hearn's letter.
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Luther and Zwingli engaged in a series of respectful and polite exchanges on the issue of the Lord's Supper.
Luther and Zwingli engaged in a series of respectful and polite exchanges on the issue of the Lord's Supper.
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Zwingli's view of the Lord's Supper is based on the concept of Christ's sacrifice on Calvary.
Zwingli's view of the Lord's Supper is based on the concept of Christ's sacrifice on Calvary.
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In 1524, Zwingli makes a statement on the real presence of Christ in the Lord's Supper.
In 1524, Zwingli makes a statement on the real presence of Christ in the Lord's Supper.
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Cornelis Hearn emphasizes the importance of faith in receiving the benefits of the sacrament.
Cornelis Hearn emphasizes the importance of faith in receiving the benefits of the sacrament.
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Zwingli's thinking on the Lord's Supper is influenced by his humanist correspondents.
Zwingli's thinking on the Lord's Supper is influenced by his humanist correspondents.
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The speaker recommends Robert Bruce's 'The Mystery of the Lord's Supper' for understanding Calvin's position on the Lord's Supper.
The speaker recommends Robert Bruce's 'The Mystery of the Lord's Supper' for understanding Calvin's position on the Lord's Supper.
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The speaker's favorite book on the Lord's Supper is written by a Scottish Presbyterian theologian.
The speaker's favorite book on the Lord's Supper is written by a Scottish Presbyterian theologian.
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The speaker teaches a course on Lutheran Christology at Westminster.
The speaker teaches a course on Lutheran Christology at Westminster.
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Calvin's position on the Lord's Supper allows for a more nuanced understanding of Paul's writings.
Calvin's position on the Lord's Supper allows for a more nuanced understanding of Paul's writings.
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The speaker's wedding ring is only a sign of their marriage, but not a seal of it.
The speaker's wedding ring is only a sign of their marriage, but not a seal of it.
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The speaker believes that Calvin's language about the Lord's Supper is entirely Scriptural.
The speaker believes that Calvin's language about the Lord's Supper is entirely Scriptural.
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The Institutes is a book written by Robert Bruce.
The Institutes is a book written by Robert Bruce.
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The speaker's course at Westminster focuses on the Reformed critique of Lutheran Christology.
The speaker's course at Westminster focuses on the Reformed critique of Lutheran Christology.
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Study Notes
Christology and the Lord's Supper
- The reformed critique of Lutheran Christology is problematic due to direct communication of properties between the natures.
- The post-resurrection body of Christ has attributes that a human body doesn't have, such as walking through walls and on water.
Luther and Zwingli's Views on the Lord's Supper
- Luther builds his Christology to justify his view of the Lord's Supper, while Zwingli's view of the Eucharist is memorial, meaning the human nature takes on some characteristics of the divine.
- For Zwingli, the omnipresence of the divine is communicated directly to the human nature, making Christ's body and blood present in the cup of coffee, but not a gospel action like taking the Lord's Supper.
The Communication of Attributes
- The reformed reject the Lutheran view of the communication of attributes on the grounds that it contravenes boundaries established in the early church.
- If Christ's human nature takes on the quality of omnipresence, it ceases to be a human nature, according to the reformed.
Marburg Colloquy and the Division of Protestantism
- The division between Luther and Zwingli at the Marburg colloquy in 1521 permanently divides Protestantism and makes the real presence a major concern for subsequent Lutheranism.
Hermeneutical Issues
- The debate between Luther and Zwingli takes place along hermeneutical lines, with Luther wanting to argue for a very literal interpretation of "this is my body".
- Luther's response to Zwingli's argument that Christ says "I am the true vine, I am the door" is that we interpret Christ literally unless it is impossible to do so.
Christological Differences
- The real difference between Lutherans and the reformed is a Christological one, connected to how the divine and human relate in the person of Christ.
- The technical term for this is the communicatio idiomatum, or the communication of attributes.
Recommended Reading
- For exploring Calvin's position on the Lord's Supper, read Book Four of the Institutes.
- For a case for the Calvinistic position, read Robert Bruce's "The Mystery of the Lord's Supper".
Zwingli's Development of Thought
- In 1523, Zwingli rejects the mass of sacrifice in light of Christ's one and once and for all sacrifice on Calvary and talks about the Lord's Supper as a commemoration.
- In 1524, Zwingli receives a letter from Cornelis Hearn, a humanist, which clarifies his thinking on the real presence and introduces symbolic views of the Lord's Supper.
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This quiz explores the reformed critique of Lutheran Christology, discussing the communication of properties between the natures of Christ and the attributes of his post-resurrection body.