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What is the primary role of division/group supervisors in preventing Maydays?
What is the primary role of division/group supervisors in preventing Maydays?
- To ensure all crews are adhering to the established incident action plan (IAP).
- To manage radio communications and relay information to the command post.
- To identify and mitigate risks that might be missed by task-focused crews and the IC. (correct)
- To directly engage in firefighting to alleviate workload on interior crews.
In the context of Mayday prevention, what does the philosophy of proactive and decentralized incident command emphasize?
In the context of Mayday prevention, what does the philosophy of proactive and decentralized incident command emphasize?
- Centralizing decision-making to ensure consistent risk assessment.
- Empowering tactical supervisors to make real-time decisions and manage risks. (correct)
- Relying solely on rapid intervention crews for reactive rescue operations.
- Strict adherence to pre-established protocols regardless of changing conditions.
According to the content, what is the significance of the 'then/what if' mindset for incident commanders (ICs)?
According to the content, what is the significance of the 'then/what if' mindset for incident commanders (ICs)?
- It promotes a reactive approach to incident management, addressing issues as they arise.
- It encourages ICs to focus on immediate actions rather than long-term planning.
- It helps ICs delegate responsibilities effectively to subordinate officers.
- It enables ICs to anticipate potential problems and prepare contingency plans. (correct)
What is the most effective way to minimize radio traffic during a Mayday incident?
What is the most effective way to minimize radio traffic during a Mayday incident?
What key element related to risk assessment is often identified in NIOSH reports concerning Maydays and firefighter LODDs?
What key element related to risk assessment is often identified in NIOSH reports concerning Maydays and firefighter LODDs?
What does OSHA's 'two-in/two-out' rule primarily address?
What does OSHA's 'two-in/two-out' rule primarily address?
According to the content, what is the primary goal of a Rapid Intervention Crew (RIC)?
According to the content, what is the primary goal of a Rapid Intervention Crew (RIC)?
What does the acronym LUNAR stand for in the context of a Mayday situation?
What does the acronym LUNAR stand for in the context of a Mayday situation?
What is the critical first action an IC should take upon hearing a Mayday call?
What is the critical first action an IC should take upon hearing a Mayday call?
In the context of a Mayday, why is it crucial for the incident commander (IC) to remain calm?
In the context of a Mayday, why is it crucial for the incident commander (IC) to remain calm?
According to the content, what personnel should meet face-to-face to develop a tactical plan during a Mayday?
According to the content, what personnel should meet face-to-face to develop a tactical plan during a Mayday?
What is the division supervisor's primary objective during a Mayday, in addition to assisting with the rescue?
What is the division supervisor's primary objective during a Mayday, in addition to assisting with the rescue?
In the described house fire scenario, what immediate action did E20 take when the patio cover collapsed on the E101 captain and firefighter?
In the described house fire scenario, what immediate action did E20 take when the patio cover collapsed on the E101 captain and firefighter?
Why was the radio 'dead silent' during the Mayday incident involving E101?
Why was the radio 'dead silent' during the Mayday incident involving E101?
What factors contributed to the double Mayday at the Carr Incident?
What factors contributed to the double Mayday at the Carr Incident?
According to the content, what is the key takeaway regarding company officers in the Lessons Learned section?
According to the content, what is the key takeaway regarding company officers in the Lessons Learned section?
According to the provided text, what is the most important consideration for selecting an engaged officer for a rapid intervention company?
According to the provided text, what is the most important consideration for selecting an engaged officer for a rapid intervention company?
What is a key message regarding the IC included in the content?
What is a key message regarding the IC included in the content?
During interior structural firefighting, what does OSHA 1910.134(g)(4)(f) specify about employee contact?
During interior structural firefighting, what does OSHA 1910.134(g)(4)(f) specify about employee contact?
What does the content suggest about staffing levels and their impact on decisions regarding rapid intervention teams?
What does the content suggest about staffing levels and their impact on decisions regarding rapid intervention teams?
What is the first thing that an IC should do during a Mayday situation according to this document?
What is the first thing that an IC should do during a Mayday situation according to this document?
What is the main objective of setting up early groups and divisons?
What is the main objective of setting up early groups and divisons?
What is the goal for first arriving companies at a house fire?
What is the goal for first arriving companies at a house fire?
What is an equivalent meaning of the AHJ when the are required rescue/extraction equipment?
What is an equivalent meaning of the AHJ when the are required rescue/extraction equipment?
What is one of the first steps that every company officer should perform before every shift?
What is one of the first steps that every company officer should perform before every shift?
Why is it important to establish group or division roles during operation?
Why is it important to establish group or division roles during operation?
What is something that is NOT mentioned in the OSHA standard procedures for interior structural firefighting?
What is something that is NOT mentioned in the OSHA standard procedures for interior structural firefighting?
What makes a Mayday more complicated?
What makes a Mayday more complicated?
What is the next step that is performed if there are many casualties or civilians?
What is the next step that is performed if there are many casualties or civilians?
During the Carr incident, what did the initial team encounter?
During the Carr incident, what did the initial team encounter?
What does the acronym EDWARD-D stand for?
What does the acronym EDWARD-D stand for?
During a firefighter rescue, what equipment is need?
During a firefighter rescue, what equipment is need?
During a Mayday, what must the RIC group supervisor do?
During a Mayday, what must the RIC group supervisor do?
Besides from having excellent leadership skills, what skill set should officers have.
Besides from having excellent leadership skills, what skill set should officers have.
While responding to fire incidents what measures should be taken?
While responding to fire incidents what measures should be taken?
Why would an IC move a company performing vertical ventilation off and assign the members to RICS?
Why would an IC move a company performing vertical ventilation off and assign the members to RICS?
What is it important to stay aware of the conditions of the fire?
What is it important to stay aware of the conditions of the fire?
Considering the 'Carr Incident,' what procedural deviation most directly contributed to the initial challenges faced by the first-in engine company?
Considering the 'Carr Incident,' what procedural deviation most directly contributed to the initial challenges faced by the first-in engine company?
Based on the information provided, why is it crucial for Incident Commanders (ICs) to cultivate relationships with Battalion Chiefs (BCs) before incidents occur?
Based on the information provided, why is it crucial for Incident Commanders (ICs) to cultivate relationships with Battalion Chiefs (BCs) before incidents occur?
What critical balance must an IC carefully consider when deciding WHEN to implement a Rapid Intervention Crew (RIC)?
What critical balance must an IC carefully consider when deciding WHEN to implement a Rapid Intervention Crew (RIC)?
What does the content emphasize regarding the coordination between the Incident Commander (IC), division supervisors, and task-level crews during a Mayday situation?
What does the content emphasize regarding the coordination between the Incident Commander (IC), division supervisors, and task-level crews during a Mayday situation?
In high-risk scenarios, like the Southwest Supermarket Fire, the content emphasizes the importance of what in regards to Mayday situations?
In high-risk scenarios, like the Southwest Supermarket Fire, the content emphasizes the importance of what in regards to Mayday situations?
Flashcards
What is a Mayday?
What is a Mayday?
An event where a firefighter is in distress and requires immediate assistance.
IC's Mindset
IC's Mindset
The Incident Commander (IC) should be pessimistic to anticipate potential problems.
Building Stability
Building Stability
Buildings structurally weaken and become more unstable as fire burns longer.
SCBA Check
SCBA Check
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PPE Condition
PPE Condition
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Radio Channel
Radio Channel
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Know the IAP
Know the IAP
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Situation Size-Up
Situation Size-Up
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Full PPE
Full PPE
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Divisions/Groups
Divisions/Groups
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Incident Action Plan
Incident Action Plan
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Proactive Incident Command
Proactive Incident Command
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Tactical Supervisor
Tactical Supervisor
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Adequate Risk Assessment
Adequate Risk Assessment
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Risk Balance
Risk Balance
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"Then/What If"
"Then/What If"
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Group Supervisor
Group Supervisor
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Radio Transmissions
Radio Transmissions
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Teamwork
Teamwork
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Proper Two-Out Lines
Proper Two-Out Lines
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If a Mayday should occur
If a Mayday should occur
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IC Responsibilities
IC Responsibilities
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RIC Group
RIC Group
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Division Supervisor
Division Supervisor
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RIC Crew
RIC Crew
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LUNAR report
LUNAR report
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IC Mindset
IC Mindset
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RIC Assignment
RIC Assignment
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Mayday Averted
Mayday Averted
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Study Notes
Introduction to Rapid Intervention and Maydays
- It is possible for firefighters to become trapped and need to call a Mayday during any stage of a fire.
- Data from Project Mayday shows that downed firefighters is something that can happen anytime, anywhere, and to anyone.
- As Bobby Athanas of FDNY Rescue 3 put it, firefighting can become very real very quickly.
- Alan Brunacini said that the IC should be the biggest pessimist on the fireground.
- An IC cannot rest until all firefighters are home safely.
- Firefighters can be trapped or killed in the first few minutes of a fire, during overhaul, or at any point in between.
- Incident Commanders and tactical supervisors must never let their guard down.
- During a structure fire, the building is essentially undergoing demolition.
- A building becomes more unstable the longer it burns.
- Gravity and the weight of water continue to exert stress on the building, even after the fire is out.
- Structural components of buildings are not designed to withstand the impact of flames, forcible entry, and water.
- Lightweight construction can fail rapidly due to its inability to withstand direct flame impingement.
- Conditions at structure fires can change in mere seconds.
Prevention
- Preventing a Mayday is more important than curing it.
- Every firefighter, driver, and officer must ensure the following at the beginning of each shift:
- SCBA cylinder is full and straps are in working order
- Portable radio battery is full
- PPE is in good condition without rips, tears, or defects
- Have your portable radio on the correct tactical channel when headed to a fire or emergency.
- Be aware of the Incident Action Plan (IAP), priorities, strategies, and tactics to understand the risk/gain threshold.
- Take a moment to take a deep breath and size up the scene, considering the big picture.
- Always wear all PPE, including hood, gloves, and SCBA (including waist strap) when in an Immediately Dangerous to Life or Health (IDLH) atmosphere.
- Conduct a walk around of the building before entering if possible.
- Be aware of the location of the fire and building layout before entry.
- Know the Value Point (VP).
- Know who your boss is.
- Know your job.
Incident Command Responsibilities
- ICs need to reinforce expectations through personal example and by ensuring their rig, radio, and PPE are ready at the start of each shift.
- Astute ICs start each shift with a reminder that a Mayday, civilian rescue, or both could occur.
- Divisions or groups should be set up early to prevent Maydays, including strip mall fires.
- Tactical supervisors fill the tactical gap to identify risks that might be overlooked by crews and the IC.
- Division A supervisor prevented crews from going underneath an unsupported mansard potentially preventing a mayday, that collapsed seconds later.
- Radio traffic should be minimized, and face-to-face communication maximized, so critical traffic can be transmitted during a Mayday and safety transmissions can prevent it.
- Accountability should be maintained in real-time with eyes-on and hands-on supervision to ensure alignment with the overall strategy and prevent freelancing.
- Proactive, decentralized incident command is a key factor in preventing or managing Maydays.
- Division and group supervisors bridge the tactical gap and can identify unfolding dangers that could lead to severe fire events or collapses.
- Rapid intervention crews are completely reactive while tactical supervisors prevent incidents from occurring.
- Statistics show that rapid intervention crews only rescue downed firefighters 6% of the time.
- Most downed firefighters are rescued by nearby crews inside the structure.
- Tactical supervisors have the responsibility of forecasting problems and stopping task-focused firefighters from going into bad situations.
- The number one issue in the NIOSH 5 is inadequate risk assessment and that key factor should be avoided.
- Having a guardian angel (tactical supervisor) keeps personnel from taking unnecessary risks.
- It is important to be aggressive and smart.
Case Study: Christmas Eve Mayday
- Sacramento Metro Fire and Sacramento City Fire share a border and respond on automatic aid to incidents in either jurisdiction.
- Common residential response levels include two BCs, four engines, two trucks, and one medic, while a second alarm brings the same resources.
- BC3 (City) and BC5 (Metro) responded to a house fire with three people trapped inside, BC3 was notified en route.
- This info was immediately passed to the units on their TAC channel.
- BC3 requested an additional medic, initiated a second alarm due to serious rescue anticipations and difficult access + heavy fire conditions.
- Radio traffic on the TAC channel became overwhelming but Division C was established and Division A objective began.
- Division A objective included completing a primary search, fire attack, and coordinated vent with the truck on the roof.
- One of the engines was finishing a bottle change when a muffled voice said, “I’m lost, I’m out of air, I NEED HELP!”
- Crews located the firefighter with the Mayday and quickly removed them from the IDLH zone.
- The Battalion Chief queued up a "then/what if" scenario due to limited awareness of first-day probie staffing the area.
- BCs must be able to hear multiple radio channels by having their radios on all day.
- An update from dispatch occurred while units were finishing an automatic TAC channel roll call, this allowed acknowledgement of dispatch.
- Requesting an immediate supplemental ambulance on the primary city channel enabled advising units en route, helping them better prepare for the next actions.
- Standing down the aggressive suppression efforts was decided upon through confirmed clear alls.
- To think of the then/what if, IC should establish a division/group supervisor to make tactical decisions based on information gathered from a forward position.
- Division/group supervisors help limit radio traffic by having face-to-face communications with task-level crews.
- Division supervisors helped so the Mayday was not walked on due to too much radio traffic.
- This Christmas Eve fire had 3 victims already pulled out and 2 under CPR so the scene was charged and needed coordination.
- This was able to be achieved as the BCs met nearly every rotation either in the form of training or coffee sit-down, developing confidence and trust.
- Gratitude to division supervisors being hostile, agile, and mobile filling the tactical gap was overwhelming.
- Filling the tactical gap enabled the IC to to have a focused, proactive perspective at the strategic level.
- Pacing decisions ahead of the incident power curve led to a safe and effective conclusion.
Two-Out Crews and Back-Up Lines
- Disparities exist in American firefighting due to the interpretation, terminology, procedures, and use of lines to fulfill the Title 29 Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) 1910.134 (g)(3) and (g)(4) “two-in/two-out” regulation.
- Examples of line terminology include “two-out line", "back-up line,” “secondary line,” “initial rapid intervention team (IRIT) line."
- It is important to establish a RIC before two-out line is stretched.
- Some agencies treat every building as occupied in order to elude the regulation and enter immediately.
- Firefighters want to know the "why" behind any policy or SOG.
- Two-out policies that are in place just to stay out of trouble or prevent OSHA fines are likely to be ignored.
- Properly placed, staffed, and utilized two-out lines have saved lives and prevented catastrophic outcomes.
- Crews sometimes wait for too long outside of a fire or scene due to the two-out regulation.
- The two-out regulation exists and that is where the confusion lies.
OSHA Standard (1910.134(g)(3))
- For all IDLH atmospheres, employers must ensure that:
- One employee, or more if needed, is located outside the IDLH atmosphere.
- Visual, voice, or signal line communication is maintained between the employee(s) in the IDLH atmosphere and those outside.
- Those outside the IDLH atmosphere are trained and equipped to provide effective emergency rescue, and if needed, are notified.
- A designee authorized by the employer is notified and provides necessary assistance.
- Employee(s) outside the IDLH atmospheres have pressure demand/other positive pressure SCBAs, or a prssure demand/other positive pressure supplied air respirator with auxiliary SCBA.
- Appropriate retrieval equipment is available, or equivalent rescue means are available without increasing overall risk.
OSHA Standard (1910.134(g)(4)) Procedures for Interior Structural Firefighting
- In addition to requirements under paragraph (g)(3), employers shall ensure:
- At least two employees enter the IDLH atmosphere and are in visual/voice contact at all times
- At least two employees are located outside the IDLH atmosphere
- All persons in interior structural firefighting use SCBAs.
- One of the two people outside the IDLH can take on other roles like incident commander/safety officer, as long as they can help, or preform rescue activities without jeopardizing the safety of anyone at risk.
- This doesn't mean firefighters shouldn't preform rescue activities before an entire team is assembled.
- A hoteline and a rapid intervention crew are not mentioned above.
- Each Authority Having Jurisdiction (AHJ) has to follow fire safety.
- 1910.134 (g)(3) and (g)(4) are meant to balance the safety of firefighters with that of civilians needing rescue. IC has to balance this with Value Point analysis.
- As an IC or divison supervisor, you can preform two-out supervision.
- In house fire with 2 three-person engines, a minimum fire actack can operate, a second two-out line and a water supply can be secued and then one IC could command the scene.
- A RIC is three-person crew, ready to rescue firefighters.
- An RIC will have equipment cached in advance of a firefighter down to expedite the response during a Mayday, like spare SCBA and RIT pack with umbilical air.
- A powered circular and chain saws might be needed.
- Rescue rope bags and accessories should be read.
- EMS equipment should always be present.
- Size up the incident with divison supervisors and command to assess coordination skills and resource status.
- A rapid intervention plan and what extent is staffed will be indicated by Value Point annalysis..
- Civilian victims always take priority.
- Apartment fires should be addressed with rapid response teams and multiple resources.
Case Study: Lullwater Incident
- Operations were transitioned to defensive mode and exterior liness and a ladder pipe were activated.
- An assessment was made where crews were sent back in for overhaul.
- While cutting the casement window, a cornace fell across the ladder.
- It was decided that interior crews would exit the structure. Crew began to exit the process.
- A low rumble was head and a burst of dust occured. Four members were working 2nd floor.
- A large section of roof came down pilling firefighters.
- Notify command of collapse and declared mayday, and advised will no longer be C divison supervisor.
- Chief responded to the rear and new C divison asssumed.
- A firefigher pinned against the wall was quickly removed.
- It was decided that heavy equipment would be requested.
- Air bags were requested back in case.
- Sixteen minutes into to mayday, the firefighters were freed who was on full PPE. He was able to reach his regulator disconnect to the roof collapse.
- First house crewed had metal castments, and other department abraisive blade cut that metal.
Takeaways from Lullwater Incident
- The roof had a lot of weight.
- Too much manpower was being used instead of waiting for special equipment.
- Always trust intuition.
ICS and Communications for Maydays
- First step is to calm down, and then the alarm will follow.
- The IC does these tasks, it's equal to all transmissions to equal the IC.
- Southwest Supermarket Fire in Phoenix showed if takes 12 firefighters to get 1 out.
- Medical should ALWAYS be on all working fires.
- Coordinate support and bridge gaps, and maintain alignment effectiveness is what an IC does.
- Tactical bosses and the IC always need to preform "then what if" scenarios.
- Stop radio transmissions.
- Conduct LUNAR report.
- Verify to all members the contents of the LUNAR report.
- Division of supervisor of the firefighters/company should meet up with RIC, confirm LUNAR and develop action plans.
- Make sure the IC approves all tactics and plans.
- Call addition alarms if needed.
- Objectives should be firefighters rescued.
House Fire Incident
- There was a 1 story house on E101.
- As E101 began a attack, a two-out line was made byE 20 to protect E101.
- More water was asked for becaus ethe fire required more water.
- Division A was assigned to E103 and TR20, whose line was staffed with help and pulled over.
- The roof on TR 106 had a roof divsion of captain.
- RIC was created with E105.
- Med group was placed at M19.
- 3 min in, a rear patio came down.
- E20 said mayday and stated E101 was in fine position.
- Because of all this prep that day the day was dealt with successful.
- Medical came to ICU.
- TR106 was ready to call on the further augment by other alarms.
Case Study: Carr Incident
- Dressed as first responders you show up to the scene.
- After 25 minutes you and one of the firefighters fall in the basement basment.
- There was 6 of 7 people living inside a one bedroom flat.
- The incident started with rescuers of some cilvillans from the floors above.
- The rapid response then fell through.
- Discuss all siturations wit h other firefighters and officers.
- Expext the unexpected and figuire it our.
Acronym EDWARD
- Emergency delcarartion clearnings all messages and LUNAR reports.
- Deploy the RIC and may timer begins.
- Warn dispatch and what frequencys will be used.
- Aditional alarms sound and extra staging of fire.
- Rolling PAR accountability.
- Doubling resources and also helping the already estabablished RIC.
Carr Incident Complications
- Standard roitiene was messed up and interfed with proper 360 degree report.
- Minute Delay interfeered.
- 1st in capitan officer made it difficult to tell what and were the proper source of the blaze was.
- Comopanys are to brifed on the radio transmission to be able to be properly listened in.
- Groups need to be held accountible by managers, and they need the prooper tranning.
- After what happened there was reminder that if fire below the fire it neeceds to checked.
- There has to be high quality rapid action and supervisors must not fail.
Sumarry
- Get back home all the troops after any call.
- Value points let the officers see were gain and risk lie on scene.
- Then and What if so something commanders must think forward to.
Chapter Review
- Make divions to cut down maydays happening.
- Two in Two outs and proper training.
- LUNAR report for safety.
- RIT must be able to conduct tactical considerations.
- There the FESHE and the other things that help rapid responders.
- This can be utialized to prep you for any training that needs to happen.
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