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When the first arriving engine company encounters a situation where the ladder company will be approaching from the opposite direction, what action should the engine company take?
When the first arriving engine company encounters a situation where the ladder company will be approaching from the opposite direction, what action should the engine company take?
- Immediately establish a water supply and begin fire suppression activities without regard to ladder company access.
- Stop short of the address to ensure the ladder company has access to the building. (correct)
- Position the apparatus on Side C-Charlie to allow access to the rear of the building.
- Proceed past the address to allow for optimal positioning for water supply, regardless of ladder company access.
Under what circumstances should the 2nd arriving engine company not enter the address side of a structure?
Under what circumstances should the 2nd arriving engine company not enter the address side of a structure?
- When the Incident Commander specifically orders them to do so.
- As a standard operational procedure, unless directed otherwise by the Incident Commander. (correct)
- Under no circumstances; the 2nd arriving engine should always approach from the address side.
- Only if the first arriving engine has already established a water supply on that side.
What is the recommended procedure for the 2nd arriving engine company when considering driving down the back alley?
What is the recommended procedure for the 2nd arriving engine company when considering driving down the back alley?
- Communicate with the Incident Commander to confirm the alley is free of obstructions and hazards.
- Ensure the alley is wide enough to accommodate the apparatus without obstructing other responding units.
- Take a wrap with a 3-inch hose line to ensure adequate water supply.
- Take a wrap with a 5-inch hose line and position on a hydrant. (correct)
Which side of the fire building should the 3rd arriving engine company report to, unless otherwise ordered by the Incident Commander?
Which side of the fire building should the 3rd arriving engine company report to, unless otherwise ordered by the Incident Commander?
What is the primary consideration for positioning apparatus for 3rd and 4th arriving engine companies at a structure fire?
What is the primary consideration for positioning apparatus for 3rd and 4th arriving engine companies at a structure fire?
What is the recommended position for the hose bed of the 3rd and 4th arriving engine companies in relation to the potential hose stretch?
What is the recommended position for the hose bed of the 3rd and 4th arriving engine companies in relation to the potential hose stretch?
What is a key difference in positioning considerations for Squrt/Water Tower apparatus compared to standard engine companies?
What is a key difference in positioning considerations for Squrt/Water Tower apparatus compared to standard engine companies?
In regard to Fire Department Connections (FDC), what is the responsibility of the 1st arriving Engine DPOP?
In regard to Fire Department Connections (FDC), what is the responsibility of the 1st arriving Engine DPOP?
What is the assigned task of the 2nd Engine DPOP at a fire scene?
What is the assigned task of the 2nd Engine DPOP at a fire scene?
What action does the 3rd Engine DPOP undertake at a fire incident?
What action does the 3rd Engine DPOP undertake at a fire incident?
What is the most important consideration when positioning an engine for hand lines or portable master streams to ensure effective water supply?
What is the most important consideration when positioning an engine for hand lines or portable master streams to ensure effective water supply?
When should a reverse lay be considered when positioning an engine for water supply?
When should a reverse lay be considered when positioning an engine for water supply?
What is the recommended minimum collapse zone distance an apparatus and personnel should maintain from a building likely to collapse?
What is the recommended minimum collapse zone distance an apparatus and personnel should maintain from a building likely to collapse?
What areas of a structure are generally considered the safest positions for apparatus placement in the event of a structural collapse?
What areas of a structure are generally considered the safest positions for apparatus placement in the event of a structural collapse?
What is the most critical consideration when positioning apparatus in relation to overhead wires?
What is the most critical consideration when positioning apparatus in relation to overhead wires?
Under what conditions should apparatus be positioned farther away from a fire with an open route to withdraw?
Under what conditions should apparatus be positioned farther away from a fire with an open route to withdraw?
What is the general guideline for parking apparatus on different types of surfaces?
What is the general guideline for parking apparatus on different types of surfaces?
In scenarios with hazardous or flammable liquids, which positioning strategy is safest in relation to the flow of the liquids?
In scenarios with hazardous or flammable liquids, which positioning strategy is safest in relation to the flow of the liquids?
Which positioning tactic is advised for apparatus at vehicle fires to mitigate risks associated with leaking fuel?
Which positioning tactic is advised for apparatus at vehicle fires to mitigate risks associated with leaking fuel?
In what specific fire scenario is the standard uphill positioning rule for apparatus NOT applicable?
In what specific fire scenario is the standard uphill positioning rule for apparatus NOT applicable?
When operating within 200 feet of the base of a high-rise fire, what specific hazard warrants consideration for apparatus, equipment, and personnel protection?
When operating within 200 feet of the base of a high-rise fire, what specific hazard warrants consideration for apparatus, equipment, and personnel protection?
Why must DPOP's consider the needs of arriving aerial apparatus when positioning their engine company?
Why must DPOP's consider the needs of arriving aerial apparatus when positioning their engine company?
Which method may be used to position ladders and engines at a fire if the street is wide enough (more than one lane)?
Which method may be used to position ladders and engines at a fire if the street is wide enough (more than one lane)?
In the 'inside/outside' method of apparatus placement, where are engines positioned at buildings less than five stories?
In the 'inside/outside' method of apparatus placement, where are engines positioned at buildings less than five stories?
In situations where the fire building is greater than five floors, where should engines be positioned using the 'inside/outside' method?
In situations where the fire building is greater than five floors, where should engines be positioned using the 'inside/outside' method?
What considerations are critical for driver/operators of both engine and aerial apparatuses regarding the aerial apparatus's stabilizing system?
What considerations are critical for driver/operators of both engine and aerial apparatuses regarding the aerial apparatus's stabilizing system?
What critical space consideration must apparatus with rear-loaded ladders observe when positioning at a fire scene?
What critical space consideration must apparatus with rear-loaded ladders observe when positioning at a fire scene?
How does the Philadelphia Fire Department ensure the effective implementation of engine company apparatus placement policies?
How does the Philadelphia Fire Department ensure the effective implementation of engine company apparatus placement policies?
When determining apparatus placement in cold weather climates, what specific condition should be considered regarding apparatus safety?
When determining apparatus placement in cold weather climates, what specific condition should be considered regarding apparatus safety?
Besides aerial operations, what other functions can Squrt/Water Tower apparatus capably perform?
Besides aerial operations, what other functions can Squrt/Water Tower apparatus capably perform?
At what types of incidents should priority positioning be given to Squrt/Water Tower apparatus to maximize their effectiveness?
At what types of incidents should priority positioning be given to Squrt/Water Tower apparatus to maximize their effectiveness?
When might Squrt/Water Tower apparatus not be held to the standard of being positioned on a hydrant?
When might Squrt/Water Tower apparatus not be held to the standard of being positioned on a hydrant?
To capitalize on the full hydraulic capabilities of Squrt/Water Tower apparatus when they are not positioned on a hydrant, what action must be taken?
To capitalize on the full hydraulic capabilities of Squrt/Water Tower apparatus when they are not positioned on a hydrant, what action must be taken?
What specific action should be undertaken to protect apparatus and personnel operating at the corners of a structure in the event of a collapse?
What specific action should be undertaken to protect apparatus and personnel operating at the corners of a structure in the event of a collapse?
When dealing with a fire in a building with a known or suspected structural collapse potential, why is the consideration of corner positioning advantageous, particularly for aerial apparatus?
When dealing with a fire in a building with a known or suspected structural collapse potential, why is the consideration of corner positioning advantageous, particularly for aerial apparatus?
What protocol should be observed to optimize water usage while connecting to standpipe/sprinkler systems?
What protocol should be observed to optimize water usage while connecting to standpipe/sprinkler systems?
What is the primary consideration when choosing the Arriving Positions for engine companies?
What is the primary consideration when choosing the Arriving Positions for engine companies?
What is the primary reason for the first-arriving engine company to pull past the address of a structure fire?
What is the primary reason for the first-arriving engine company to pull past the address of a structure fire?
Which of the following factors most significantly influences the decision to deviate from positioning the second-arriving engine company at Side C (Charlie) of a structure fire?
Which of the following factors most significantly influences the decision to deviate from positioning the second-arriving engine company at Side C (Charlie) of a structure fire?
When might a Squrt/Water Tower apparatus be exempt from the standard practice of positioning on a hydrant, and what action must be taken to ensure its full hydraulic capability?
When might a Squrt/Water Tower apparatus be exempt from the standard practice of positioning on a hydrant, and what action must be taken to ensure its full hydraulic capability?
What is the primary justification for positioning attack engine apparatus at building corners in situations where structural collapse is a concern?
What is the primary justification for positioning attack engine apparatus at building corners in situations where structural collapse is a concern?
In the 'inside/outside' method of apparatus placement, what is the key determinant of whether engines are positioned on the inside or outside when supporting aerial apparatus, and why?
In the 'inside/outside' method of apparatus placement, what is the key determinant of whether engines are positioned on the inside or outside when supporting aerial apparatus, and why?
Flashcards
1st in Engine Company Positioning
1st in Engine Company Positioning
Attack the fire from the front (Side A-Alpha), positioning with collapse zone in mind and ensuring room for the first ladder company.
2nd in Engine Company Positioning
2nd in Engine Company Positioning
Prepare to attack the fire from the rear (Side C-Charlie) of the building, usually opposite the first engine company; prioritize positioning on a hydrant.
3rd in Engine Company Positioning
3rd in Engine Company Positioning
Take position at a hydrant, report to Side A-Alpha, allow access for additional responding apparatus.
4th in Engine Company Positioning
4th in Engine Company Positioning
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Squrt/Water Tower Positioning
Squrt/Water Tower Positioning
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1st Engine DPOP Role
1st Engine DPOP Role
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Positioning for Heavy Water Lines
Positioning for Heavy Water Lines
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Structural Collapse Considerations
Structural Collapse Considerations
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Terrain Considerations
Terrain Considerations
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Positioning of Engines (Under 5 Floors)
Positioning of Engines (Under 5 Floors)
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Engine Positioning (Over 5 Floors)
Engine Positioning (Over 5 Floors)
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Engine Company Apparatus Placement
Engine Company Apparatus Placement
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Responsibility
Responsibility
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Vehicle Fire Positioning
Vehicle Fire Positioning
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Falling Debris Protection
Falling Debris Protection
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Study Notes
- This manual chapter provides general information about engine company apparatus placement.
- Each member is responsible for exercising the appropriate control as dictated by their rank when implementing guidelines.
Arriving Positions
- The first arriving engine company should aim to attack the fire from the front of the building or the address side, known as Side A-Alpha.
- When positioning the apparatus, the collapse zone should be considered, and room should be left for the first arriving ladder company to ladder the building.
- This is typically done by pulling past the address, unless it's known that the ladder company is approaching from the opposite direction, in which case the engine should stop short.
- The second arriving engine company prepares to attack the fire from the rear of the building, Side C-Charlie, generally opposite the first engine company, unless directed otherwise by the Incident Commander.
- The apparatus should be placed on a hydrant.
- If driving down the back alley, taking a wrap with a 5-inch hose line is recommended.
- The second engine company should not enter the address side (Side A) of the block to gain rear access, unless there are no other options.
- Attempt to position the hose bed to face the hose stretch.
- The third arriving engine company positions at a hydrant, reports to Side A-Alpha, and considers positioning for additional responding apparatus like ladder companies.
- The fourth arriving engine company positions at a hydrant, reports to Side C-Charlie, and considers positioning for additional responding apparatus.
Squrt/Water Tower Positioning
- Squirts (rear-mounted) and Water Towers (mid-mounted) are specialty apparatus equipped with elevated aerial waterways that can deliver high volume GPM.
- They are not restricted to aerial operations and can operate at grade and below.
- Priority positioning on the fireground should be given at escalating incidents, extra alarm fires, or incidents deemed necessary by the Incident Commander to maximize effectiveness and stream reach.
- These apparatus may not need to be positioned on a hydrant; another engine may be assigned to supply them to maximize their hydraulic capabilities.
Fire Department Connections
- The first arriving engine designated as the Driver/Pump Operator (DPOP) takes a hydrant, connects to the FDC, and prepares to pressurize any sprinkler/standpipe systems if ordered.
- The second engine DPOP secures a water supply and awaits further orders.
- The third engine DPOP supports the first-in engine company's DPOP by connecting to the standpipe/sprinkler system(s).
Heavy Water Lines
- Engines must be near the building or incident for effective water supply with handlines or portable master streams.
- When operating a fixed appliance, the apparatus must be positioned to allow the fire stream to reach the intended target, all while considering potential structural collapse.
- When practical, using a manifold and a reverse lay is encouraged to conserve time and personnel energy.
Structural Collapse
- Consider structural collapse when determining an attack engine's position.
- Buildings with extensive fire involvement or those in poor condition are more likely to collapse.
- Apparatus and personnel should maintain a safety zone of at least 1.5 times the height of any building likely to collapse.
- The corners of a building are considered the safest position for apparatus placement, especially for aerial apparatus operating master streams.
Overhead Wires
- The presence of overhead wires affects fireground apparatus positioning.
- Positioning apparatus directly below these lines can be dangerous, especially under fire or weather conditions that may cause them to fall.
- Fires with a potential to spread dictate positioning apparatus further away with the open route to withdraw.
Terrain
- Unless ordered otherwise by the Incident Commander, park apparatus on paved surfaces to avoid getting stuck.
- In cold weather, consider the buildup of ice and snow for apparatus safety.
- In incidents involving hazardous or flammable liquids, an uphill position minimizes the risk of liquids flowing underneath the apparatus.
- In vehicle fires, an uphill position protects the apparatus from burning fuel, except when contending with wildland fires.
- In wildland fires, apparatus and personnel should be positioned downhill from the main body of fire, which moves uphill faster than on flat or downhill terrain.
Falling Debris
- Falling debris from buildings, particularly in high-rise fires, presents significant danger to firefighters and apparatus.
- Protection from falling glass and debris may be needed for apparatus, equipment, and personnel operating within 200 feet of the base of a high-rise fire.
Positioning to Support Aerial Apparatus
- When engines arrive before the first aerial apparatus, DPOPs should seek a position that provides the best advantage for their apparatus while considering the needs of incoming aerial apparatus.
- The "inside/outside" placement method may be employed to position ladders and engines if the street is wide enough, meaning more than one lane
- For buildings shorter than five floors, engines are positioned on the side of the street closest to the building, with aerial apparatus placed outboard of the engine.
- It is assumed the aerial device is long enough to reach the top of the building from this position.
- When the fire building is taller than five floors, engines take the outside position to maximize the aerial apparatus' reach.
- Apparatus with rear-loaded ladders must have sufficient space behind them for ladder removal.
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