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What is the primary aim of Plato's Republic?
What is the primary aim of Plato's Republic?
- To critique Athenian democracy.
- To detail the education system in ancient Greece.
- To outline the history of the Peloponnesian War.
- To explore the concept of justice. (correct)
In Plato's ideal city, Kallipolis, who is primarily responsible for ruling?
In Plato's ideal city, Kallipolis, who is primarily responsible for ruling?
- Philosopher-kings or Guardians. (correct)
- Democratically elected officials.
- Military generals chosen by lot.
- A council of wealthy merchants.
According to Plato, what is a significant danger that power poses to rulers?
According to Plato, what is a significant danger that power poses to rulers?
- It isolates them from the general populace.
- It inherently leads to foreign invasions.
- It distracts them from philosophical pursuits.
- It tends to corrupt them. (correct)
What is the purpose of the 'myth of metals' in Plato's ideal city?
What is the purpose of the 'myth of metals' in Plato's ideal city?
What is the main objective of censorship in Plato's ideal city?
What is the main objective of censorship in Plato's ideal city?
In Plato's view, what role should women play in the ideal city?
In Plato's view, what role should women play in the ideal city?
What is 'eugenics' in the context of Plato's ideal society?
What is 'eugenics' in the context of Plato's ideal society?
According to Plato, why should guardians avoid private property and wealth?
According to Plato, why should guardians avoid private property and wealth?
What does Plato mean when he speaks of 'mousike' in the training of guardians?
What does Plato mean when he speaks of 'mousike' in the training of guardians?
What is the significance of Plato's analogy between the city-state and the individual soul?
What is the significance of Plato's analogy between the city-state and the individual soul?
In Plato's view, what is the role of 'producers' (farmers and tradespeople) in the ideal city?
In Plato's view, what is the role of 'producers' (farmers and tradespeople) in the ideal city?
What is the primary criteria for selecting guardians in Plato's Kallipolis?
What is the primary criteria for selecting guardians in Plato's Kallipolis?
Plato was scornful of the democratic decisions in Athens because:
Plato was scornful of the democratic decisions in Athens because:
How does Plato propose to manage reproduction among the Guardians in his ideal city?
How does Plato propose to manage reproduction among the Guardians in his ideal city?
According to your understanding, who ought to guard the Guardians?
According to your understanding, who ought to guard the Guardians?
Flashcards
Who was Plato?
Who was Plato?
A noble Athenian who grew up during the Peloponnesian War. Founded a philosophical school, the Academy. Most famous work is The Republic.
What is The Republic?
What is The Republic?
Plato's most famous work, aiming to define Justice
Plato's Cardinal Virtues
Plato's Cardinal Virtues
Justice (a virtue) will sustain and perfect three additional cardinal virtues: Temperance, Wisdom, and Courage
What is Kallipolis?
What is Kallipolis?
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Guardian Training
Guardian Training
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Plato's Censorship
Plato's Censorship
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Myth of Metals
Myth of Metals
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What is Eugenics?
What is Eugenics?
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Guardian Activities
Guardian Activities
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Guardian Virtues
Guardian Virtues
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Civic Wisdom
Civic Wisdom
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Rulers Role
Rulers Role
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Individual Justice
Individual Justice
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Overal Definition of Justice
Overal Definition of Justice
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Study Notes
Plato's Life and Education
- Plato lived from approximately 428 to 347 BCE.
- He was of noble Athenian descent and lived through the Peloponnesian War (431-405 BCE).
- This war saw a power shift from Athens to Sparta.
- The Peloponnesian War marked the end of the Golden Age of Greece.
- Plato was educated in philosophy, poetry, and gymnastics.
- He may have been taught through questioning.
- Plato's written works are in dialogue form, featuring Socrates and exploring various topics.
- Plato founded a philosophical school known as the Academy.
- Aristotle was Plato's most famous student.
- Plato's most famous work is The Republic.
The Republic and Justice
- Plato's work deals with a distinction and interplay between "ideal forms" and "everyday experience".
- The Republic aims to define Justice.
- Justice, according to Plato, is a virtue that sustains and perfects Temperance, Wisdom, and Courage.
- A concern is the human tendency to be corrupted by power.
- The Republic explores the passage from timocracy to oligarchy to democracy and then tyranny.
- Plato's ideal city, Kallipolis, would be ruled by philosopher-kings or Guardians.
- Guardians should be bred, selected, and trained to rule justly, avoiding corruption and self-interest.
- Kallipolis shares some similarities with communism.
- Philosophers in Kallipolis would not own property, receive a salary, or live separately.
Kallipolis and the Guardians
- A Guardian, selected from the guardian class, should be strong, courageous, spirited yet gentle to fellow citizens
- Guardians undergo mental (mousike) and physical (gymnastiki) training.
- Training develops a view of the gods as good.
- It proposes censorship and banning texts that critically depict the gods like Homer.
- Mental training acknowledges the inability to fully understand the divine.
- Intensive physical training involves dietary restrictions and limits medical treatments.
- Plato views the Guardians as mental and physical embodiments of strength.
The Ideal City
- Censorship is used to cultivate moral character.
- For example, negative depictions are avoided to prevent Guardians from fearing death, to exhibit courage.
- Only appropriate art is permitted, which aids character development and encourages reason.
- People are taught myths about society to encourage acceptance of their roles, such as the "myth of metals".
- The "myth of metals" assigns metals (gold, silver, bronze) based on roles (rulers, guardians, farmers).
- Guardians are selected from a guardian class, identified at birth, and trained accordingly.
- Male and female guardians perform the same tasks, promoting equality for state efficiency.
Eugenics in Kallipolis
- Eugenics involves arranging reproduction to increase desirable heritable characteristics in a population.
- Sir Francis Galton developed eugenics for improving the human race, but it became discredited.
- Discrediting was due to unscientific and racially biased practices, as seen in Nazi Germany.
- Eugenics is aimed at improving the genetic quality of a human population.
- Historically, eugenicists have attempted to alter human gene pools by excluding or promoting groups.
- Plato's training and education of guardians is considered a course in eugenics.
- A system of state-arranged marriages/breeding strengthens the Guardian class.
The Guardian's Role
- Guardians assign "marriage numbers" to rank individuals.
- The ranking is from "gold souls" to "bronze souls", to improve the human species.
- Superior Guardians should have sex with multiple selected women to yield a superior generation.
- Children of guardians are taken at birth to a "rearing pen".
- Nurses and teachers would raise them without knowing their parents.
- Historians once thought trials of babies were common in Sparta and Athens.
- Weak infants were subject to the infanticide.
- A painting of elders inspecting a baby from Life of Lycurgus (100 BCE) showed the practice in action.
- Archaeological evidence suggests infanticide was occasional, not a regular Greek practice.
- Guardians act for all people, benefitting the whole.
- So the Guardian is not a dictator but someone above squabbles.
- Guardians are divorced from material life, not owning property.
- Guardians act with essential virtues.
- Wisdom equips them to make decisions, balancing courage and moderation.
- Plato scorned democratic decisions in Athens.
- The decisions were swayed by the popular and powerful.
- The question remains: "Who guards the guardians"?
- It prompts questions on handling Guardians unwilling or unable to fulfill their roles.
Group Work and Justice
- Assemble into groups for assignments.
- Each group gets a philosopher for the semester.
- Discuss the usefulness of thought experiments.
- Discuss Justice as a societal and individual condition.
- Discuss Plato’s social hierarchy and justice decline.
- Discuss the Republic.
- Justice is achieved when each class performs its role.
- Rulers govern with wisdom and auxiliaries protect.
- Producers provide, and no class interferes.
- In the individual, justice mirrors the state.
- Reason governs, spirit supports, appetite moderates.
- Justice arises when each part of the soul functions properly: reason ruling, spirit supporting, and appetites regulated, achieving inner harmony.
- Justice means minding one's own business; fulfilling one's purpose without overreaching and disrupting balance.
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