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What is the confirmed funding arrangement for the Ministry of Railways going forward?
What is the confirmed funding arrangement for the Ministry of Railways going forward?
- They will not need any funding from the IRFC.
- Funding will come from the Indian Railway Finance Corporation only.
- MoR funding will be eliminated entirely in the next fiscal year.
- Funding from the MoR is expected to continue. (correct)
When is the revised estimate for the current fiscal year expected to be released?
When is the revised estimate for the current fiscal year expected to be released?
- February
- January (correct)
- March
- December
What is the size of the deal made with NTPC?
What is the size of the deal made with NTPC?
- 900 crores
- 500 crores
- 700 crores (correct)
- 800 crores
What unique model was employed in the deal with NTPC?
What unique model was employed in the deal with NTPC?
What may happen in the fourth quarter regarding the funding expectations?
What may happen in the fourth quarter regarding the funding expectations?
What does the speaker indicate about the unfolding story of government business?
What does the speaker indicate about the unfolding story of government business?
How long is the leasing period for the deal with NTPC?
How long is the leasing period for the deal with NTPC?
What is the nature of the contract with NTPC as described?
What is the nature of the contract with NTPC as described?
What margin is typically used for lending in railways?
What margin is typically used for lending in railways?
What strategy is being implemented for the next fiscal year?
What strategy is being implemented for the next fiscal year?
What is indicated about the growth of PAT in the future?
What is indicated about the growth of PAT in the future?
What type of business is identified as a zero NPA business?
What type of business is identified as a zero NPA business?
What is the expected effect of exploring lending outside of railway business?
What is the expected effect of exploring lending outside of railway business?
How does the cost of funds for REC-PFC compare to their lending rates?
How does the cost of funds for REC-PFC compare to their lending rates?
What is a potential challenge when extending beyond railway lending?
What is a potential challenge when extending beyond railway lending?
What is the primary goal for the company in the future according to the strategy?
What is the primary goal for the company in the future according to the strategy?
What is the company's approach to entering new markets outside of railway funding?
What is the company's approach to entering new markets outside of railway funding?
What is a defining characteristic of the railway funding mentioned?
What is a defining characteristic of the railway funding mentioned?
What does CAGR refer to in the context of growth expectations?
What does CAGR refer to in the context of growth expectations?
Why does the speaker refuse to provide specific CAGR numbers for future growth?
Why does the speaker refuse to provide specific CAGR numbers for future growth?
What future sectors does the company mention exploring for growth?
What future sectors does the company mention exploring for growth?
What does 'zero NPA' signify in the context of railway financing?
What does 'zero NPA' signify in the context of railway financing?
What is a notable benefit of the unique railway funding process mentioned?
What is a notable benefit of the unique railway funding process mentioned?
What term describes the expected share of non-railway financing in the total AUM over the next few years?
What term describes the expected share of non-railway financing in the total AUM over the next few years?
What is the expected timeline for clarity on the funding allocation for IRFC?
What is the expected timeline for clarity on the funding allocation for IRFC?
What is the current balance sheet size mentioned for the company?
What is the current balance sheet size mentioned for the company?
Which sector is highlighted as a potential area for the company's diversification?
Which sector is highlighted as a potential area for the company's diversification?
What competitive advantage does the company have in the external commercial borrowing (ECB) market?
What competitive advantage does the company have in the external commercial borrowing (ECB) market?
What distinguishes the company regarding the bond market?
What distinguishes the company regarding the bond market?
What is the interest rate difference between railway and non-railway business for the company?
What is the interest rate difference between railway and non-railway business for the company?
What is the company's goal concerning its participation in the national infrastructure pipeline?
What is the company's goal concerning its participation in the national infrastructure pipeline?
What outcome is the company seeking by positioning itself as a NBFC?
What outcome is the company seeking by positioning itself as a NBFC?
What is the primary source of funding mentioned for the railway asset?
What is the primary source of funding mentioned for the railway asset?
What is the current status regarding capital infusion for growth?
What is the current status regarding capital infusion for growth?
What expertise does Manoj Kumar Dubey have that is relevant to building an appraisal team?
What expertise does Manoj Kumar Dubey have that is relevant to building an appraisal team?
What is the projected net worth mentioned?
What is the projected net worth mentioned?
Which team is being prioritized for development as they explore business outside railways?
Which team is being prioritized for development as they explore business outside railways?
What indicates a strong confidence in proposed railway projects?
What indicates a strong confidence in proposed railway projects?
What is noted as a strength of Manoj Kumar Dubey?
What is noted as a strength of Manoj Kumar Dubey?
What is expected to be clarified by January and February?
What is expected to be clarified by January and February?
What is the reason for charging a lease rental of 7.4% when the incremental borrowing rate is 7%?
What is the reason for charging a lease rental of 7.4% when the incremental borrowing rate is 7%?
What is indicated by the cost-plus model mentioned in the discussion?
What is indicated by the cost-plus model mentioned in the discussion?
What could potentially affect the interest cost if borrowing is done at a floating rate?
What could potentially affect the interest cost if borrowing is done at a floating rate?
If a lease is fixed at 7.4% for 15 years, what fact must be considered about the initial borrowing?
If a lease is fixed at 7.4% for 15 years, what fact must be considered about the initial borrowing?
What may influence the decision-making of shareholders regarding the interest margin with railways?
What may influence the decision-making of shareholders regarding the interest margin with railways?
What does the term 'WACC' refer to in the context of leasing?
What does the term 'WACC' refer to in the context of leasing?
Why are risks such as interest rate variation passed on in the lease agreements?
Why are risks such as interest rate variation passed on in the lease agreements?
What is one potential characteristic of the 100 crores borrowing for the lease?
What is one potential characteristic of the 100 crores borrowing for the lease?
Flashcards
Railway Lending Margin
Railway Lending Margin
Indian Railway Finance Corporation (IRFC) currently lends with a margin of 35-40 bps on railway projects.
Expanding Lending
Expanding Lending
IRFC intends to expand its lending activities to include infrastructure beyond railways.
Attractive Lending Rates
Attractive Lending Rates
IRFC plans to offer very attractive rates in its new markets.
High Margin Potential
High Margin Potential
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Infrastructure Funding Aim
Infrastructure Funding Aim
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REC-PFC Cost of Funds
REC-PFC Cost of Funds
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Market Share Potential
Market Share Potential
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Zero NPA Railway Business
Zero NPA Railway Business
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IRFC's Cost of Capital
IRFC's Cost of Capital
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IRFC's Lending Focus
IRFC's Lending Focus
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IRFC's Target Market
IRFC's Target Market
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IRFC's Revenue Timeline
IRFC's Revenue Timeline
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IRFC's Zero NPA Railway Lending
IRFC's Zero NPA Railway Lending
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IRFC's Growth Strategy
IRFC's Growth Strategy
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IRFC's Competitive Advantage
IRFC's Competitive Advantage
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IRFC's Expansion Timeline
IRFC's Expansion Timeline
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IRFC's Main Mandate
IRFC's Main Mandate
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Funding for the MoR
Funding for the MoR
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Revised Estimate
Revised Estimate
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Q4 Disbursement
Q4 Disbursement
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Leasing Model
Leasing Model
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NTPC Contract Size
NTPC Contract Size
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NTPC Leasing
NTPC Leasing
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20 Rakes
20 Rakes
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IRFC's Current Business
IRFC's Current Business
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IRFC's Diversification Goal
IRFC's Diversification Goal
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IRFC's Profitability Strategy
IRFC's Profitability Strategy
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IRFC's Funding Reliance
IRFC's Funding Reliance
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IRFC's Funding Timeline
IRFC's Funding Timeline
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IRFC's Infrastructure Funding Potential
IRFC's Infrastructure Funding Potential
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IRFC's Profit Margin Differential
IRFC's Profit Margin Differential
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IRFC's Capital Needs
IRFC's Capital Needs
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IRFC's Appraisal Team
IRFC's Appraisal Team
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IRFC's Expertise in Railways
IRFC's Expertise in Railways
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IRFC's Non-Railway Expansion
IRFC's Non-Railway Expansion
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IRFC's Net Worth
IRFC's Net Worth
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IRFC's Equity Concerns
IRFC's Equity Concerns
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IRFC's Lending Margin
IRFC's Lending Margin
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What is IRFC's lending model?
What is IRFC's lending model?
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What are the risks IRFC passes on in their lending?
What are the risks IRFC passes on in their lending?
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What is IRFC's margin philosophy?
What is IRFC's margin philosophy?
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Why does IRFC's lending to the railways have a low risk?
Why does IRFC's lending to the railways have a low risk?
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What is IRFC's cost of funds?
What is IRFC's cost of funds?
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How is IRFC's cost of funds used in lending?
How is IRFC's cost of funds used in lending?
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Does IRFC lend money with a fixed or variable rate?
Does IRFC lend money with a fixed or variable rate?
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What is the impact of IRFC's lending model on their profitability?
What is the impact of IRFC's lending model on their profitability?
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Study Notes
Funding Arrangement and Expectations
- The revised estimate for the current fiscal year is expected to be released soon.
- The fourth quarter may see a change in funding expectations.
- The speaker expects the unfolding story of government business to reveal the final funding arrangement.
NTPC Deal Details
- The deal with NTPC involves a unique lease model.
- The leasing period for the deal is 15 years.
- The contract with NTPC is a cost-plus model, meaning the company is compensated for its costs and a certain margin.
- The deal size has not been disclosed in the text provided.
Lending Strategy and Growth
- The typical lending margin for railways is not explicitly stated.
- The strategy for next fiscal year focuses on leveraging the strong railway business for growth in other sectors.
- Profit After Tax (PAT) growth is expected to increase in the future.
- Railway financing is considered a zero Non-Performing Asset (NPA) business, indicating low risk.
Expanding Beyond Railway Lending
- The company is exploring lending opportunities outside of railway business.
- The cost of funds for REC-PFC is lower than their lending rates, potentially creating a competitive advantage.
- One challenge of expanding beyond railway lending is the risk of higher NPAs in new sectors.
Future Growth Strategy
- The primary company goal is to become a leading financing institution, seeking to grow its overall business.
- The company's approach to entering new markets is gradual and strategic, leveraging its expertise in railway financing.
- Railway funding is characterized by low risk and predictable cash flows.
- The company expects significant growth in non-railway lending in the next few years.
Expectations and Growth Projections
- CAGR refers to the Compound Annual Growth Rate, a measure of expected growth over time.
- The speaker refrains from providing specific CAGR numbers as they are not yet finalized.
- The company is exploring growth opportunities in infrastructure, renewable energy, and other sectors.
- "Zero NPA" signifies a lack of delinquent loans, highlighting the company's strong financial performance in railway financing.
Key Highlights
- The unique railway funding process offers a notable benefit of low risk and a predictable cash flow.
- Non-railway financing is expected to play a significant role in the company's AUM (Assets Under Management) in the coming years.
- Clarity on the funding allocation for IRFC is expected by January or February.
- The company's current balance sheet size is not explicitly stated.
- Infrastructure is highlighted as a potential area for the company’s diversification.
Competitive Advantages and Strategy
- The company has a competitive advantage in the external commercial borrowing (ECB) market due to its strong track record and expertise.
- The company is distinguished in the bond market for its ability to access funds at competitive rates.
- The interest rate differential between railway and non-railway business is not specified, but it’s likely to be lower in railway lending due to its lower risk profile.
- The company aims to participate actively in the national infrastructure pipeline to secure growth opportunities.
- By positioning itself as a Non-Banking Finance Company (NBFC), the company seeks to attract a wider range of investors and broaden its funding sources.
Railway Asset Funding and Growth Strategy
- The primary source of funding for railway assets is internal, but the company is exploring external options as well.
- Capital infusion for growth is still under discussion and not yet finalized.
- Manoj Kumar Dubey has expertise in credit appraisal and debt management, relevant for building a strong appraisal team.
- The projected net worth of the company is not mentioned in the text.
- The credit appraisal team is being prioritized for development to support growth in non-railway businesses.
Key Insights and Future Plans
- Strong confidence is evident in the proposed railway projects, which are seen as attractive by investors.
- Manoj Kumar Dubey is recognized for his strengths in credit appraisal and risk management.
- Further clarity on funding and capital infusion is expected by January and February.
Leasing Arrangement and Cost Analysis
- The reason for charging a lease rental of 7.4% when the incremental borrowing rate is 7% is not explained in the text.
- The cost-plus model mentioned implies that the lease rental covers the company's borrowing costs and a margin for profit.
- Floating interest rates on borrowings could potentially affect the interest cost of the lease.
- If a lease is fixed at 7.4% for 15 years, the initial borrowing costs must be considered carefully, as they might influence the overall profitability of the lease.
- The interest margin with railways is likely to be influenced by shareholder expectations and the need to balance profitability with attracting new business.
- WACC refers to the Weighted Average Cost of Capital, a metric used to assess the cost of capital for a company.
- Risks like interest rate variation are passed on in lease agreements because they are difficult to predict and could impact overall profitability.
- the 100 crore borrowing for the lease may have a fixed interest rate, as the company is seeking a predictable cash flow.
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