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What is a common misconception about resurrection, particularly concerning its relationship to immortality?
What is a common misconception about resurrection, particularly concerning its relationship to immortality?
- Resurrection and immortality are essentially the same concept, both ensuring survival after death. (correct)
- Resurrection is an outdated religious term that has been replaced by the concept of soul survival.
- Resurrection primarily involves the soul's survival after death, negating the need for bodily return.
- Resurrection solely focuses on the spiritual dimension of a person, disregarding the body.
In the context of early Christian beliefs, what was the significance of Jesus's resurrection, as emphasized by Paul in 1 Corinthians 15?
In the context of early Christian beliefs, what was the significance of Jesus's resurrection, as emphasized by Paul in 1 Corinthians 15?
- It mainly symbolized the triumph of good over evil and the immortality of the spirit.
- It primarily served as a model for spiritual enlightenment and the soul's ascent to heaven.
- It was a metaphorical event demonstrating the power of faith and the potential for inner transformation.
- It was the cause and model for the future resurrection of the dead, highlighting a bodily dimension. (correct)
How did early Christians view the Jewish eschatology they inherited, particularly in relation to the Hebrew scriptures?
How did early Christians view the Jewish eschatology they inherited, particularly in relation to the Hebrew scriptures?
- They considered it irrelevant and quickly replaced it with new theological concepts.
- They saw it as marginal and easily set aside in favor of more spiritual interpretations.
- They appreciated it metaphorically, instead of literally following it.
- They regarded it as central to their faith, deeply interwoven with their core beliefs. (correct)
What is the main focus of Jesus' message regarding the Kingdom of God?
What is the main focus of Jesus' message regarding the Kingdom of God?
In what way does the Book of Revelation portray the ultimate goal of God's plan?
In what way does the Book of Revelation portray the ultimate goal of God's plan?
What effect did Platonism have on the holistic expectations of eschatological salvation?
What effect did Platonism have on the holistic expectations of eschatological salvation?
How did Irenaeus of Lyon counter the Gnostic tendencies of spiritualizing salvation??
How did Irenaeus of Lyon counter the Gnostic tendencies of spiritualizing salvation??
How does Origen reconcile Platonism with Christianity in his eschatology?
How does Origen reconcile Platonism with Christianity in his eschatology?
What criticism did Origen face regarding his interpretation of the risen body?
What criticism did Origen face regarding his interpretation of the risen body?
What concept regarding humanity, is quite foreign to the Hebrew Bible?
What concept regarding humanity, is quite foreign to the Hebrew Bible?
What does the context suggest about the word 'nephesh'?
What does the context suggest about the word 'nephesh'?
In relation to eschatology, what does Jesus of Nazareth demonstrate?
In relation to eschatology, what does Jesus of Nazareth demonstrate?
What did Augustine's theology introduce?
What did Augustine's theology introduce?
Origen believed that the soul was considered the true self, while the physical body was considered inherently good.
Origen believed that the soul was considered the true self, while the physical body was considered inherently good.
Augustine proposed that the body at resurrection would rise identical to its original earthly form.
Augustine proposed that the body at resurrection would rise identical to its original earthly form.
Irenaeus' views on resurrection were in alignment with Platonic philosophy.
Irenaeus' views on resurrection were in alignment with Platonic philosophy.
Augustine believed in the restoration of physical bodies as part of the resurrection process.
Augustine believed in the restoration of physical bodies as part of the resurrection process.
Irenaeus was a Christian apologist who became bishop of Jerusalem around AD 178.
Irenaeus was a Christian apologist who became bishop of Jerusalem around AD 178.
Origen's view of resurrection is sometimes referred to as 'disembodied immortality' theory.
Origen's view of resurrection is sometimes referred to as 'disembodied immortality' theory.
Augustine suggested that the body would rise and be transformed, as something like a seed grows into a tree from a tiny kernel.
Augustine suggested that the body would rise and be transformed, as something like a seed grows into a tree from a tiny kernel.
Flashcards
What is Eschatology?
What is Eschatology?
Study of end times or 'last things'.
What is 'Nephesh'?
What is 'Nephesh'?
The Hebrew word often translated as 'soul,' but meaning something closer to 'living being.'
What envisions reunion?
What envisions reunion?
God will resurrect the whole person, uniting the body and soul, rather than only saving part.
What is Realized Eschatology?
What is Realized Eschatology?
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What is Platonic Dualism?
What is Platonic Dualism?
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What is Gnostic Salvation?
What is Gnostic Salvation?
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Who is Irenaeus of Lyon?
Who is Irenaeus of Lyon?
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Origen's Theological Cycle
Origen's Theological Cycle
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Study Notes
Eschatology and the Soul
- Early eschatological thinking often revolves around an immortal soul that persists beyond bodily demise
- This soul is believed to pre-exist the body, suggesting a spiritual existence prior to embodiment
Early Church Eschatology
- New Testament scholars find that the early church's eschatology differs significantly from popular modern beliefs
- Early Christian doctrine bears a resemblance to Gnosticism, which early Church Fathers combatted
- Early Christian eschatology originated from Jesus and his disciples' Jewish context
- Hebrew scriptures lack the concept of an indestructible soul that lives on after bodily decay
- The Hebrew word "nephesh" is sometimes translated as "soul"
- "Nephesh" does not have a meaning of an indestructible core
- The notion of an immortal soul is foreign to the Hebrew Bible
Resurrection in the Hebrew Bible
- There are very few texts in the Hebrew Bible that discuss new life beyond the grave
- Daniel 12:2 speaks of resurrection, where some will awaken to everlasting life or everlasting disgrace
- Resurrection is the return of the whole person, body and soul together, not just the "spiritual" dimension
- Bodily physicality is explicit in Jewish literature prior to Christianity
- 2 Maccabees recounts the story of seven brothers who affirm that God will return their bodies to them after execution
Jesus and Resurrection
- Jesus, a first-century Jew, affirmed belief in bodily resurrection
- Jesus supported his belief by referencing scripture commonly used in 1st century Jewish discourse
New Testament and Resurrection
- Resurrection is central to the New Testament
- Gospel accounts emphasize the bodily dimension of Jesus' resurrection
- In Luke's Gospel, Jesus appears to his disciples and invites them to touch him : Jesus makes it clear that he is not a ghost
- Paul states that Jesus' resurrection is the cause and model for the future resurrection of the dead
Jewish Eschatology
- Elements of Jewish eschatology were not marginal for early Christians
- Eschatological ideas are crucial to understanding early Christian texts
- Jesus repeatedly discusses the Kingdom of God in the Gospels
- Jesus' ministry focuses on the Kingdom's coming
- The coming Kingdom is explicitly an eschatological phenomenon
Kingdom of God
- Communal and social phenomenon
- Not the salvation of an isolated individual or a disembodied soul
- Throughout history people have spiritualized and individualized this message
- Christian theology transformed the Kingdom of God into a kingdom beyond mortal life
- Belief says the well-being of men became salvation of souls after death
- This contradicts the message of Jesus Christ
- The Lord was addressing the whole man, in his embodied form, with his involvement in history and society
The Lord's Prayer
- Jesus didn't teach a spiritualist vagueness
- He instructed them to pray for God's Kingdom to come
Paul's Epistles
- What he saw as end of time events has arrived
- A new creation has began
- Paul believed the scriptures were coming to fulfilment
- The present time had become the age of eschatological fulfillment
New Creation
- The new creation is about transformation
- The whole universe to be freed of mortality
- It’s about the transformation of the created order not escaping the material world
- The transformation the have already witnessed in Jesus
Revelation
- The final goal is a new heaven and a new earth
- God has his dwelling with mankind
- Not us leaving to be with God
- Its about God coming down to earth to be with people
Apocalyptic Theology
- Ernst Kasemann argues that apocalyptic theology is the mother of Christianity
Contrast
- Difference between bodily and earth centered eschatology and popular otherworldly eschatology
- Popular Christian belief in the modern period has tended to envisage the survival of the soul with little reference to the resurrection of the body or the new creation of the material world
Platonism
- Pagan philosophy has had too much of an influence on Christianity
- Original holistic expectations of eschatological salvation had become spiritualized
- In Platonism there is a division between a transient world and an unchanging world of ideal forms
- For Platonism, the mind or soul is the real person
- While the body is the encumbrance, so the Platonic hope was for the disembodied life of the mind
- Bodily resurrection went against it
Christian Hope
- Christian hope reflects the worldview of the Bible, is hope for the whole creative reality
- Does not divide creation into the immortal and the perishable
- Eschatology influenced by Platonic dualism promises eternal life only for the spirit, not the body
Christian History
- For the first few centuries, Christian theology resisted spiritualization of salvation
- The main challenge to this developing hope for bodily resurrection was a movement known as Gnosticism
- Gnostic theology generally shares the conviction that the present embodied condition of human consciousness is not the natural or ideal state, but is itself a sign of a fallen world
- Salvation in gnostic thought is the freedom that comes from accepting this account
Irenaeus of Lyon
- He defended belief in the bodily resurrection against Gnostic tendencies
- His theology essentially a plea for the religious relevance of the ordinary things, of the material world
- Of Israel's biblical narrative, interpreted and summed up in Christ
- Christ human body it’s the way he revealed in the world
Insistence
- Irenaeus insists that the fleshly body is important to the narrative
- Central to the salvation of the faithful, the resurrection of the flesh, is final plan
Emphasis
- Emphasis on the essential earthliness of humankind
Origen
- Scholars have suggested that is trying to marry Platonism with Christianity
- His theology can be seen as cyclical, he starts with the spiritual state of harmony Where rational souls are contemplating soul but souls fall from harmony
Redeem
- To redeem, they are given bodily existence which must leave to return to unity
- Accept Plato arguments on the immortality of the soul
Important Fact
- They immortal, the spiritual world of rational creatures, was God creator, creaton of the material world came later
- It’s their choice to cease contemplation So always possible to return again
Eschatological Hope
- Paul every knee shall bow
Conclusion
- Contradiction to church on Resurrection
Corinthians
- Raising spiritual body to what is worthy of God
Opposition
- Resurrecton escape to the new
Origens Belief
- Belief in the should seemed the bible true
- The church fathers they didn't know because of Plato on Jesus
Edwards Argument
- Based on description not play tonic
- Resurrection of dead what isn’t raised to be in corruption
The Spirit
- The adjective of the spirit is not what something is composed of
- But what is animated by
- The difference would be like a ghost versus not a soul.
Paul Said
- Flesh and blood cannot inherit kingdom
- Was assumed that could not be a physical But argued that the flesh referred to not the corpse but nature and sinfulness
- Paul declares truth doesn’t come through this though
Augustine
- Platonism and theology seems plausible
- Book of platonists was important to leave his other theology
Conclusion
- Platonists were right for subordinating the body, but wrong to Rid it
- Then it shows the way from how to understand is
- Follows for other theologist turning to others
- Platonic traditions
The Problem
- There no church to location location of god with self affirming divinity of divine
Augustine Says
- Souls should be distinct
- Middle level soul body
Approaching God
- Augustine isn’t leaving in traditon
Implication
- No sign, not a sacrament is a means if grace
Little Support
- Didn’t have scripture support to turn into soul and away
Influence
- Is the infuential of platonic traditions
Now
- Soul seems have speculatons
Not the end
- Intellects changing not the end of a chapter
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