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According to Nesbitt, what is the central question explored by the Difference Thesis (DT)?
According to Nesbitt, what is the central question explored by the Difference Thesis (DT)?
- Do motives completely determine the morality of an action, overshadowing its direct consequences?
- Are actions always morally superior to inactions, regardless of consequences?
- Is deliberately causing death morally worse than deliberately allowing death to occur? (correct)
- Is indifference morally equivalent to malice in all situations involving life and death?
What crucial point does Nesbitt emphasize when comparing scenarios of killing versus letting die?
What crucial point does Nesbitt emphasize when comparing scenarios of killing versus letting die?
- The emotional distress experienced by involved parties should be the primary consideration.
- The underlying motives and contextual details must be carefully considered to avoid biased judgment. (correct)
- The consequences for society are identical, therefore the acts are equally immoral.
- The legal ramifications are more severe in cases of direct killing than in instances of letting die.
In the context of the arguments presented, what is the primary goal of creating pairs of cases (like those presented by Rachels)?
In the context of the arguments presented, what is the primary goal of creating pairs of cases (like those presented by Rachels)?
- To establish fixed legal precedents for dealing with end-of-life decisions.
- To isolate the variables of 'killing' and 'letting die' from confounding factors. (correct)
- To prove that all human beings instinctively value action over inaction.
- To evoke strong emotional responses to manipulate moral intuitions.
How does Nesbitt critique arguments against the Difference Thesis, particularly those from Rachels and Tooley?
How does Nesbitt critique arguments against the Difference Thesis, particularly those from Rachels and Tooley?
What is the key difference between Smith's and Jones' actions in the presented scenario?
What is the key difference between Smith's and Jones' actions in the presented scenario?
If someone argues that malice makes an act of killing morally worse than an act of letting die that is motivated by indifference, what is a valid critique of this argument?
If someone argues that malice makes an act of killing morally worse than an act of letting die that is motivated by indifference, what is a valid critique of this argument?
Which scenario most accurately reflects an application of the Difference Thesis, as Nesbitt understands it?
Which scenario most accurately reflects an application of the Difference Thesis, as Nesbitt understands it?
Why might philosophers construct hypothetical scenarios, such as the case of Smith and Jones, when discussing complex moral issues like killing versus letting die?
Why might philosophers construct hypothetical scenarios, such as the case of Smith and Jones, when discussing complex moral issues like killing versus letting die?
According to Nesbitt, what crucial factor leads to the perception of moral equivalence between individuals in scenarios testing the Difference Thesis?
According to Nesbitt, what crucial factor leads to the perception of moral equivalence between individuals in scenarios testing the Difference Thesis?
What key distinction does Nesbitt emphasize to effectively evaluate the Difference Thesis between killing and letting die?
What key distinction does Nesbitt emphasize to effectively evaluate the Difference Thesis between killing and letting die?
In Nesbitt's example, why is Jones considered morally better than Smith concerning their nephews?
In Nesbitt's example, why is Jones considered morally better than Smith concerning their nephews?
According to Nesbitt, how do individuals like Jones, who are unwilling to kill for moral reasons, differ from inanimate objects such as rocks or trees?
According to Nesbitt, how do individuals like Jones, who are unwilling to kill for moral reasons, differ from inanimate objects such as rocks or trees?
What reasoning does Nesbitt offer for our rational preference for Jones-like people over Smith-like people?
What reasoning does Nesbitt offer for our rational preference for Jones-like people over Smith-like people?
What is a crucial element of Nesbitt's argument?
What is a crucial element of Nesbitt's argument?
In the context of Nesbitt's argument, how does Kuhse challenge Nesbitt's defense of the Difference Thesis?
In the context of Nesbitt's argument, how does Kuhse challenge Nesbitt's defense of the Difference Thesis?
Why does Nesbitt consider the Smith and Jones case important in the context of the Difference Thesis?
Why does Nesbitt consider the Smith and Jones case important in the context of the Difference Thesis?
According to Foot's ethical framework, what is the primary distinction that makes it permissible for the trolley driver to divert the trolley but impermissible for the surgeon to kill the healthy patient?
According to Foot's ethical framework, what is the primary distinction that makes it permissible for the trolley driver to divert the trolley but impermissible for the surgeon to kill the healthy patient?
In the context of the trolley problem and the surgeon dilemma, which principle does Foot emphasize to differentiate between morally permissible and impermissible actions?
In the context of the trolley problem and the surgeon dilemma, which principle does Foot emphasize to differentiate between morally permissible and impermissible actions?
How does Foot's resolution to the trolley problem address the conflict between utilitarian considerations (saving more lives) and deontological considerations (moral duties and rights)?
How does Foot's resolution to the trolley problem address the conflict between utilitarian considerations (saving more lives) and deontological considerations (moral duties and rights)?
What is the key ethical question raised by the comparison of the trolley problem and the surgeon case, according to the text?
What is the key ethical question raised by the comparison of the trolley problem and the surgeon case, according to the text?
Imagine a scenario where a doctor has a single dose of a life-saving antidote and two patients: one needs the entire dose to survive, while the other needs only half. If the doctor gives half the dose to each, both will survive albeit with permanent health issues. According to Foot's reasoning, what should the doctor do?
Imagine a scenario where a doctor has a single dose of a life-saving antidote and two patients: one needs the entire dose to survive, while the other needs only half. If the doctor gives half the dose to each, both will survive albeit with permanent health issues. According to Foot's reasoning, what should the doctor do?
Nesbitt argues that the moral equivalence between Smith and Jones in the original case stems from what?
Nesbitt argues that the moral equivalence between Smith and Jones in the original case stems from what?
How does Nesbitt's revised Jones case (slipping in the bathroom) aim to demonstrate his point?
How does Nesbitt's revised Jones case (slipping in the bathroom) aim to demonstrate his point?
What principle does Nesbitt endorse regarding reprehensible actions?
What principle does Nesbitt endorse regarding reprehensible actions?
In Tooley's example with the two sons poisoning their father, what aspect does Tooley highlight to argue against the Difference Thesis?
In Tooley's example with the two sons poisoning their father, what aspect does Tooley highlight to argue against the Difference Thesis?
How does Tooley's example challenge the idea that only actions (as opposed to omissions) are morally relevant?
How does Tooley's example challenge the idea that only actions (as opposed to omissions) are morally relevant?
What is a key difference between Rachels' initial argument and Nesbitt's counter-argument regarding the Smith and Jones cases?
What is a key difference between Rachels' initial argument and Nesbitt's counter-argument regarding the Smith and Jones cases?
How might someone who supports the Difference Thesis critique Tooley's example of the two sons?
How might someone who supports the Difference Thesis critique Tooley's example of the two sons?
Which of the following best captures the central debate between Rachels, Nesbitt and Tooley?
Which of the following best captures the central debate between Rachels, Nesbitt and Tooley?
Why does Menzel critique the idea that sincere consent from potential recipients justifies a luck-based system for healthcare resource allocation?
Why does Menzel critique the idea that sincere consent from potential recipients justifies a luck-based system for healthcare resource allocation?
In the context of Nesbitt's argument, under what condition would the moral difference between killing and letting die not be attributable to the acts themselves?
In the context of Nesbitt's argument, under what condition would the moral difference between killing and letting die not be attributable to the acts themselves?
What is the central question Nesbitt explores regarding killing and letting die?
What is the central question Nesbitt explores regarding killing and letting die?
According to Menzel, why are considerations similar to those in organ donation relevant to healthcare services generally?
According to Menzel, why are considerations similar to those in organ donation relevant to healthcare services generally?
What is the risk, according to Nesbitt, of not being explicit about the details in scenarios comparing killing and letting die?
What is the risk, according to Nesbitt, of not being explicit about the details in scenarios comparing killing and letting die?
How does Nesbitt use the example of someone pushing another into a river to illustrate his point?
How does Nesbitt use the example of someone pushing another into a river to illustrate his point?
A hospital uses an algorithm to determine which patients receive a life-saving treatment when resources are limited. Menzel would be most critical of this system if:
A hospital uses an algorithm to determine which patients receive a life-saving treatment when resources are limited. Menzel would be most critical of this system if:
A bystander watches someone collapse from a heart attack but hesitates to perform CPR, even though they are trained and able. Applying Nesbitt's line of reasoning, the moral evaluation of the bystander's inaction depends MOST on:
A bystander watches someone collapse from a heart attack but hesitates to perform CPR, even though they are trained and able. Applying Nesbitt's line of reasoning, the moral evaluation of the bystander's inaction depends MOST on:
Kuhse argues that Nesbitt's comparison between Smith and Jones primarily overlooks what key distinction?
Kuhse argues that Nesbitt's comparison between Smith and Jones primarily overlooks what key distinction?
According to Kuhse, in what scenario might killing be considered morally preferable to letting someone die?
According to Kuhse, in what scenario might killing be considered morally preferable to letting someone die?
What is Nesbitt's primary concern regarding 'Jones-like' individuals (those who let die but do not kill)?
What is Nesbitt's primary concern regarding 'Jones-like' individuals (those who let die but do not kill)?
Why does Kuhse disagree with Nesbitt's preference for "Jones-like" people over "Smith-like" people?
Why does Kuhse disagree with Nesbitt's preference for "Jones-like" people over "Smith-like" people?
According to Kuhse, what is a potential negative consequence of individuals being generally unwilling to kill under any circumstances?
According to Kuhse, what is a potential negative consequence of individuals being generally unwilling to kill under any circumstances?
How does Kuhse challenge the idea that the motivation behind an action definitively determines its moral value?
How does Kuhse challenge the idea that the motivation behind an action definitively determines its moral value?
What underlying assumption does Kuhse identify in arguments that automatically deem killing as morally worse than letting die?
What underlying assumption does Kuhse identify in arguments that automatically deem killing as morally worse than letting die?
What is the relationship between Nesbitt's view on killing vs letting die, and his view on actions vs persons?
What is the relationship between Nesbitt's view on killing vs letting die, and his view on actions vs persons?
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Difference Thesis (DT)
Difference Thesis (DT)
The idea that deliberately causing death is morally worse than deliberately allowing death.
Nesbitt's View on DT
Nesbitt's View on DT
Taking action that results in death is morally worse than failing to prevent death.
Morally Relevant Factors
Morally Relevant Factors
Factors like malice or indifference that influence moral judgment in scenarios.
Rachels and Tooley's Argument
Rachels and Tooley's Argument
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Smith's Scenario
Smith's Scenario
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Jones' Scenario
Jones' Scenario
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Core of the Debate
Core of the Debate
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Importance of Explicit Details
Importance of Explicit Details
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Rachels' Claim
Rachels' Claim
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Smith and Jones Case
Smith and Jones Case
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Nesbitt's Principle
Nesbitt's Principle
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Nesbitt's Jones Example
Nesbitt's Jones Example
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Difference Thesis
Difference Thesis
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Tooley's Poison Example
Tooley's Poison Example
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Tooley's Argument
Tooley's Argument
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Killing vs. Letting Die
Killing vs. Letting Die
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Nesbitt's Argument
Nesbitt's Argument
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Nesbitt on Smith vs. Jones
Nesbitt on Smith vs. Jones
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Threat Assessment
Threat Assessment
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Rational Preference
Rational Preference
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Kuhse's Response
Kuhse's Response
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Moral Line at Killing
Moral Line at Killing
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Implicit Consent in Luck-Based Systems
Implicit Consent in Luck-Based Systems
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Policymaker's Ethical Duty
Policymaker's Ethical Duty
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Killing vs. Letting Die Question
Killing vs. Letting Die Question
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Nesbitt's River Examples
Nesbitt's River Examples
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Impact of Motives
Impact of Motives
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Risk of Ignoring Motives
Risk of Ignoring Motives
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Ethical Allocation
Ethical Allocation
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Scarce Healthcare Resources
Scarce Healthcare Resources
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Killing vs. Letting Die (Smith/Jones)
Killing vs. Letting Die (Smith/Jones)
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Reprehensible Actions vs. Persons
Reprehensible Actions vs. Persons
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Threat Assessment (Killer vs. 'Let Die')
Threat Assessment (Killer vs. 'Let Die')
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Death as Preferable to Living
Death as Preferable to Living
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Killing as a 'Merciful' Act
Killing as a 'Merciful' Act
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Threat from Unwillingness to Kill
Threat from Unwillingness to Kill
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Practical Ethics
Practical Ethics
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The Trolley Problem
The Trolley Problem
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Organ Sacrifice
Organ Sacrifice
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Killing vs. Letting Die (Foot's view)
Killing vs. Letting Die (Foot's view)
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Trolley Driver's Choice
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The Surgeon Case
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Study Notes
Winston Nesbitt: Is Killing No Worse than Letting Die?
- Nesbitt addresses the question of whether killing someone is morally worse than letting someone die, exploring the validity of the Difference Thesis.
- The Difference Thesis (DT) asserts that deliberately causing death is morally worse than deliberately failing to prevent it.
- Nesbitt supports the Difference Thesis.
- To properly assess the moral difference, one must consider the motives, because indifference is not as bad as malice.
- Overlooking details may lead to incorrect conclusions about the moral status of killing versus letting die.
- James Rachels and Michael Tooley argue against the Difference Thesis, attempting to create unbiased cases.
- Nesbitt contests their arguments and upholds the Difference Thesis.
Rachels' Argument
- Rachels presents a scenario involving Smith, who drowns his nephew for inheritance, and Jones, who lets his nephew die.
- Rachels argues there is no moral difference between killing and letting die, considering both Smith and Jones equally reprehensible.
- Nesbitt claims Rachels overlooks that Jones was also prepared to kill his nephew.
- Nesbitt endorses the principle that someone fully prepared to commit a reprehensible act is as reprehensible as someone who carries it out.
- Nesbitt argues that to see that being prepared to act is the morally significant factor, imagine that Jones slips, hits his head, and never gets to kill or let die, still being as reprehensible as Smith.
Tooley's Argument
- Tooley illustrates a case of two sons planning to poison their wealthy father.
- One son puts poison in the father's whiskey but is discovered by the other, who then lets the father drink the whiskey.
- Tooley argues the sons are equally reprehensible.
- Nesbitt counters that both brothers being prepared to kill their father explains their equal reprehensibility, not that killing and letting die are equally reprehensible.
Nesbitt's Positive Account
- Failures in Rachel and Tooley's arguments stem from the perpetrators being prepared to kill.
- While preparedness to kill results in moral equivalence along the dimension of what they are prepared to do, this does not equate to equivalence along dimensions of killing and letting die.
- To test the Difference Thesis effectively, cases must involve one person prepared to kill and another who would let die for moral reasons.
- Smith is willing to kill for inheritance, whereas Jones would let his nephew die but morally refuses to kill.
- Nesbitt claims Jones is morally superior to Smith.
- The fact that Jones is better than Smith is supposed to show that killing is worse than letting die.
- Those like Smith are threats, while people like Jones are not.
- Those like Jones will not help, but won't kill, while those like Smith are prepared to kill if it benefits them.
- Nesbitt considers a rational preference for Jones-like people evidence that killing is worse than letting die.
Helga Kuhse's Response to Nesbitt
- Kuhse contends that Nesbitt's defense of the Difference Thesis fails.
- Kuhse asserts Nesbitt overlooks the distinction between reprehensible actions and reprehensible persons.
- A person willing to kill for personal gain may be worse than someone willing only to let die for personal gain. And someone motivated by self-interest alone is a worse person than someone motivated by the common good.
- Kuhse states that none of this demonstrates that killing is a worse action than letting die.
- Jones drawing a line at letting his nephew die may make him a less reprehensible person than Smith.
- This does not imply Jones' inaction was less reprehensible.
Are Killing and Letting Die Always Evil?
- Nesbitt considers people like Smith a threat, while people like Jones are not.
- Kuhse suggests that Nesbitt focuses on cases where both killing and letting die are evil.
- Kuhse points out many consider dying, in some cases, preferable to living.
- Terminally ill patients and doctors may view death as the best outcome.
- Patients might decline treatment, and doctors might stop treatment, given consent, to end living.
- Killing could be more helpful if it reduces suffering.
- In such instances, killing may be morally superior to letting die.
- Kuhse argues people unwilling to kill would be more threatening than those willing to kill out of compassion.
Paul T. Menzel: Rescuing Lives: Can't We Count?
- Menzel presents a case about Laura, a five-year-old needing multiple organ transplants
- Laura needed a small intestine, large intestine, stomach, pancreas, and liver
- Her parents raised money through private donations via newspaper publicity.
- The chance of success for Laura's transplant was 50/50.
- Menzel questions if transplant is morally objectionable, believing it sacrifices several lives.
- The text identifies four justifications for the procedure.
Justifications for the Procedure
- Scarce organ transplants advance medical experimentation.
- Menzel responds by saying the argument works only if multiple organ transplants will not sacrifice more than one person to save another.
- There is more urgency in multiple scarce organ transplant cases.
- Menzel replies that needing one organ puts one in an urgent situation.
- There should be heightened urgency due to the difficulty of the recue, but Menzel believes this is a mistake.
- The amount of organs required should not impact urgency.
- The fact that organs could save more than one is morally irrelevant.
- Menzel counters with a continual striving to expand the organ pool to save more lives.
- With an expanded organ pool, multiple transplants could save the same amount of lives as without multiple transplants.
- There may be implicit consent by sincerely participating in a luck-infused system to having one life saved when several could have.
- Menzel responds potential recipients do not get policy makers off the hook.
- Policy makers should empathize equally with potential recipients, helping save the most lives.
- Scarce healthcare resources are like organ donation, so similar considerations apply.
A.B. Shaw: In Defense of Ageism
- Shaw presents objections to rationing healthcare by age, offering replies to each concern.
- Chronological and biological age correlate imperfectly, making ageist policies unfair for medical resource allocation.
- Biological age references physical condition, like arteries or joint health.
- Chronological age is viewed as an arbitrary basis for medical decisions.
- Shaw replies that correlation exceptions are too infrequent to oppose ageist policies.
- There is more likely to be a 50 year-old with a 70 year-old body than one in good condition.
- Age takes its toll, so policies should be based on general cases.
- Shaw suggests seniors might need special protections similar to children and the disabled.
- Healthcare should not be diverted to seniors.
- It is more beneficial for children to have resource access, thus being right, not more than right.
- Ageism would not be discrimination.
- Allocation should be determined by years lived and left to live, not contribution to society.
- All lives are of equal value, so age should not impact sentencing upon death.
- Shaw replies the statement is a bad analogy.
- Moral statuses of doctor actions assess the fairness system for resource distribution.
- Fairness dictates who attains the most benefit.
- Wisdom and love may be seen as more valuable than economic value.
- Shaw replies that benefit, based on understating years, is more essential than value.
- Seniors are ends that should not be means to a just society.
- Seniors have intrinsic value, not just instrumental value.
- Shaw replies that limited resource chooses between ends and should be distributed to inflict least injustice.
- Rationing should not ignore quality of life considerations.
- Shaw replies medical and personal value decisions should stay separate.
Methods of Rationing
- Rationing mechanisms exist that discriminate senior care due, to:
- Chance: facility proximity affects old
- Queuing: conditions push patients down list, worsening senior's chance of survival.
- Wealth: those with care options prosper competitively, leaving seniors at loss.
- Shaw argues for explicit age policy over implicit rationing.
PHL 2120: The Trolley Problem
- The trolley problem explores ethical decision-making in scenarios where harm is inevitable.
The Trolley Problem
- As a trolley driver, you face a choice due to brake failure: continue straight, killing five workers, or divert onto a side track, killing one.
- Almost everyone agrees it is morally permissible to turn the trolley.
- As a surgeon, five patients need organ transplants to survive.
- A healthy young man visits for a check-up; he's a perfect match. Could you sacrifice him to save the others?
- Almost everyone agrees it is morally impermissible to take his life.
- The trolley problem, per Philippa Foot, is not about what to do, but why it's permissible to divert the trolley (killing one) yet impermissible to sacrifice the man (killing one).
Foot's Solution
- Killing is worse than letting die; killing one is worse than letting five die.
- A surgeon must not kill the one to save five and trolley driver must choose between killing one worker and killing five workers.
- Killing five is worse than killing one, so driver should divert trolley into the one worker.
Judith Jarvis Thomson's Solution
- Bystander Scenario: You can divert a trolley, killing one to save five.
The Dilemma
- You are not driving the trolley. You are strolling down the tracks and notice trolley charging toward five people. If you pull the switch, you can divert trolley in direction of one man.
- It is permissible to throw switch. But it is also permissible to do nothing, letting five die. Is Foot's Solution wrong?
- Thompson believes trolley problem lies in bystander case for explination. So, problem is:
- Why is it permissible to throw the switch and kill one individual?
- We need a more refined approach than killing and letting die.
Making the Switch
- The bystander is making something that threatens the five people.
- The bystander is not engaging in any stringent personal rights.
- Rights have say on permissibility in this case such as infringing on someone's rights and acting toward maximum utility.
- The threat to five was organ failure. Surgeon does not redirect threat.
Outweighing Utility
- If there were no other people on track, it would be violating the stringent personal rights.
- Rights are weighed against utility, thus there is something the bystander does to outweigh man's right that they not kill him.
- Saving five does not make something that threatens to kill people.
- The five against others that they not kill him is violated.
The Stringency of a given right is key
Consider this example:
- Walking across the man’s property to get to it, but it's a permissible wrongdoing.
- Right has the has the right against others than they do not violently handle him.
- Means that a threat diverted with connection to the act. The means which the threat was diverting the man off the bridge, but that infringes one’s rights.
- Killing violates a right. It entails that it is impermissible for the bystander to push the man onto the tracks to save one.
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Explore the core arguments of the Difference Thesis (DT) and Nesbitt's perspective. Nesbitt critiques arguments against DT, particularly those from Rachels and Tooley. The discussion covers moral implications of killing versus letting die.