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What was the author's primary concern when approaching Senator Russell Long?
What was the author's primary concern when approaching Senator Russell Long?
What was the author's initial concern about introducing a bill?
What was the author's initial concern about introducing a bill?
What was Senator Long's response to the author's proposal?
What was Senator Long's response to the author's proposal?
What was the core idea of the author's proposal?
What was the core idea of the author's proposal?
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What was Senator Long's concern about the railroads?
What was Senator Long's concern about the railroads?
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What did Senator Long do in the meeting of the Commerce Committee?
What did Senator Long do in the meeting of the Commerce Committee?
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Who was the chairman of the Commerce Committee?
Who was the chairman of the Commerce Committee?
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What was Senator Long's response to Chairman Magnuson's comment?
What was Senator Long's response to Chairman Magnuson's comment?
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What was the main purpose of Thevenot's trip?
What was the main purpose of Thevenot's trip?
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Why did Thevenot agree to help Kelso?
Why did Thevenot agree to help Kelso?
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What did Senator Long say when he opened The Capitalist Manifesto?
What did Senator Long say when he opened The Capitalist Manifesto?
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What was Kelso's proposal for the Conrail system?
What was Kelso's proposal for the Conrail system?
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Who did Thevenot and the author meet to arrange for Kelso's meeting with Senator Long?
Who did Thevenot and the author meet to arrange for Kelso's meeting with Senator Long?
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What did Eric Severeid deliver on the radio the day before the meeting with Senator Long?
What did Eric Severeid deliver on the radio the day before the meeting with Senator Long?
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Why did Kelso and the author go to the gallery to wait for Senator Long?
Why did Kelso and the author go to the gallery to wait for Senator Long?
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What was the significance of the event on the radio the day before the meeting with Senator Long?
What was the significance of the event on the radio the day before the meeting with Senator Long?
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What was the main reason why Senator Long agreed to meet with Kelso and the others?
What was the main reason why Senator Long agreed to meet with Kelso and the others?
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What was the significance of Senator Long's dinner meeting with Kelso and the others?
What was the significance of Senator Long's dinner meeting with Kelso and the others?
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What was the main topic of discussion during the dinner meeting?
What was the main topic of discussion during the dinner meeting?
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Why did Senator Long's father, Huey Long, pose a threat to Roosevelt's political leadership?
Why did Senator Long's father, Huey Long, pose a threat to Roosevelt's political leadership?
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What was the outcome of Senator Long's meeting with Kelso and the others?
What was the outcome of Senator Long's meeting with Kelso and the others?
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What did Senator Long manage to get into law?
What did Senator Long manage to get into law?
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Who signed the legislation into law on January 1, 1974?
Who signed the legislation into law on January 1, 1974?
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What was Kelso's idea about economic ownership?
What was Kelso's idea about economic ownership?
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What was the significance of Huey Long's assassination?
What was the significance of Huey Long's assassination?
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What was the outcome of the ESOP study by E.F. Hutton and others?
What was the outcome of the ESOP study by E.F. Hutton and others?
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What was the atmosphere of the dinner meeting between Senator Long and Kelso?
What was the atmosphere of the dinner meeting between Senator Long and Kelso?
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Who provided a point-by-point rebuttal to the study's conclusion?
Who provided a point-by-point rebuttal to the study's conclusion?
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How many ESOP companies exist today?
How many ESOP companies exist today?
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What Act of 1974 promoted ESOPs?
What Act of 1974 promoted ESOPs?
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At what age was Russell Long elected as a US Senator?
At what age was Russell Long elected as a US Senator?
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What type of leaders are needed to move systemic change forward?
What type of leaders are needed to move systemic change forward?
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What did Russell Long liken his father to?
What did Russell Long liken his father to?
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What is the approximate number of employee-owners today?
What is the approximate number of employee-owners today?
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What was Russell Long's philosophy about ownership?
What was Russell Long's philosophy about ownership?
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Who opposed Kelso's economic theories?
Who opposed Kelso's economic theories?
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What was Russell Long's principle in politics?
What was Russell Long's principle in politics?
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What was the topic of the bill before Congress mentioned in the conversation?
What was the topic of the bill before Congress mentioned in the conversation?
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Who were the co-sponsors of the bill from the Democratic party?
Who were the co-sponsors of the bill from the Democratic party?
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What was the prognosis of the bill before Congress?
What was the prognosis of the bill before Congress?
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Study Notes
ESOP Champion Russell Long
- Russell Long, a senator from Louisiana, played a crucial role in promoting the Employee Stock Ownership Plan (ESOP) concept.
- Long was convinced by Louis Kelso's idea of worker ownership and championed the cause, introducing a bill that led to the passage of the Employee Retirement Income Security Act (ERISA) in 1974.
The Meeting that Changed the Course of ESOP
- A meeting between Russell Long, Louis Kelso, Wayne Thevenot, and the author took place on November 27, 1973, at the Montpelier Room in Washington D.C.
- Kelso discussed his general theory, political theory, and the logic of binary economics with Long, who listened intently and compared Kelso's ideas to his father Huey Long's "share the wealth" programs.
- Long, unlike his father, was not a Robin Hood populist and believed every man should become a capital owner, which he called a "capitalist."
The Early Days of ESOP
- The concept of ESOP was met with opposition from traditional economists, including Milton Friedman and Paul Samuelson.
- Senator Long's support was instrumental in getting a watered-down version of the ESOP legislation passed, which called for a study to determine the extent of employee ownership.
- The study, which was awarded to E.F. Hutton and others, concluded that ESOPs would not be effective, but Kelso and the author later provided a rebuttal to this report.
Legacy of ESOP
- Today, there are over 10,000 ESOP companies and over 11 million employee-owners in the United States.
- Russell Long's support was crucial in establishing ESOP as a viable form of employee ownership, leading to the passage of over 20 laws promoting ESOPs.
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A conversation about introducing a bill in the US legislation process, discussing the need for a powerful committee member to get it passed.