Ch 9 pg 247-253

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Flat roofs are generally found on larger buildings such as stores, factories,____ and _____ buildings. In the past these roofs were normally much stronger than ____ roofs, since they were designed to support greater ___ loads

School’s apartment peaked live

Inverted roofs have roof boards nailed to a framework of 2x4s raised ____ ft above the main roof joist

Several

The style of roof that has become dominant in the last __ years, Atleast in the ___ and ___ is the metal deck roof

30 east Midwest

Pg 248 says Older flat roofs have wooden beams of ___ or even 3x12s as the main support beams. Pg 254 says ____ or 3x12s. Spaced __in apart

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Oh 248 says these 2x12 and 3x12s are limited to a ___ ft span between supports (steel or masonry bearing walls) ch 12 pg 335 says ___ ft apart

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Nailed to the roof beams is the roof decking which is usually ___ tongue and groove planking

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In some very old roofs a thin layer of ___ was also laid on top of the tar paper

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In some cases ____ was spread over the hot tar to act as a retardant to the spread of flames

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This style of flat roof with its layers of tar has a lifespan of __ __ years. With several layers of tar paper they can be up to 3 to _ inches thick. This is a very substantial roof to work on, even over a heavy body of fire

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Old style construction with exposed joist can be found in older buildings such as ____ and ____, where heating and appearances aren’t primarily a concern.

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A working fire on the top floor of any large area, flat roof building requires an immediate commitment of at least __ FFs equipped with ___ power saws, ___ 6-8ft hooks( 10ft for larger buildings which may have a cockloft as much as __ ft deep) a halligan tool, an axe and a radio

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Immediately upon reaching the roof(via ladder or ____, never through the ___ stairs) the members should vent any vertical shafts they find such as bulkhead doors and skylights

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A member can vent the top floor windows using a ___ or a halligan tool clipped to a short rope

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After venting bulkheads and top floor windows then members can cut open the ___. Preforming in the reverse sequence will likely delay fire control by hindering the advancement of the _____

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Most text have advocated for ___ ft hole for large area, flat roof structures

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The first step in making any ventilation opening is to locate the ____ site, usually as close to directly over the fire as is ___

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The ___ of the fire is most often determined by observing its condition, either as the members make their way to the roof or once they have arrived there.

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Other means for locating the proper site include communicating with interior forces by ____, feeling soil pipes and checking the roof for ___ and ____ and by means of examination holes

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Two types of examination holes are used; one is a _____ opening the other is a ___ cut.

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The kerf cut is __ wide by __ inches long. The triangle is 8 to __ inches

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The triangle cut can be used to insert the _____ nozzle or ___, such as the bresnan distributer

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Plan the cut. First item to consider is the means of ____. Have Atleast __ ways off each roof. If only one makes sure someone arranges another ____ to be placed where members can use it if the first route gets cut off

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The second concern when positioning the cut is the ____ direction.

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The saw operator must be capable of cutting both ____ and ____ handed to ensure they are standing on solid roofing at all times

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The cut should be made as close to the ___ of the selected joist

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Subdivide the hole into ___ ft max. Make sufficient ____ holes at the ____ of each section either to fall or be pushed down, similar to inspection holes

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One 8x8 ft hole requires ___ linear ft of cutting. If the first _____ is pulled after making the initial __ cuts the attack team may be granted sufficient relief for them to remain inside

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Cut to expand as many additional ___ between the joist as possible rather than extending the channel between existing joist. Joist act as draft ____

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Many of the _____ materials used on roof decks are very combustible. Tar paper and newer rubber roofing burn with large quantities of black smoke,high heat,and lots of flame. Newer roofing material often turns ____

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If the wind is ___ it is best to complete all the cuts before you pull the hole, so that you won’t be driven off by the smoke and heat

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Flashcards

Flat Roofs: Common Locations & Purpose

Generally found on larger buildings such as stores, factories, schools, apartment buildings. In the past, these roofs were typically much stronger than peaked roofs, as they were designed to support heavier live loads.

Metal Deck Roof: Dominance & Region

The style of roof that has become dominant in the last 30 years, especially in the East and Midwest.

Older Flat Roof Beams

Found on older roofs, where wooden beams of 2x10s or even 3x12s serve as the primary support beams. They’re spaced 16 inches apart.

Beam Span Limit

The wooden beams supporting flat roofs generally have a maximum span of 20 feet between supports.

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Roof Decking

The roof decking is typically made of 1x6 tongue and groove planking, nailed directly to the roof beams.

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Tin Layer in Older Roofs

A thin layer of tin was sometimes laid on top of tar paper in older flat roofs. This provided an extra layer of protection and durability to the roof.

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Gravel: Fire Retardant

In some cases, gravel was spread over hot tar to act as a fire retardant, slowing down the spread of flames.

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Tar Roof Lifespan & Thickness

Flat roofs built with layers of tar have a lifespan of 20-30 years. With multiple layers of tar paper, they can reach a substantial thickness of 3 to 4 inches.

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Older Buildings with Exposed Joists

Older buildings with exposed joists are often found in structures like garages and warehouses where heating and aesthetics are less important.

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Initial Firefighter Assignment for Flat Roof Fires

When responding to a fire on the top floor of a large, flat roof building, a minimum of 4 firefighters should be assigned to the operation, equipped with specific tools.

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Access to Flat Roof

When reaching the flat roof (by ladder or platform), never use the interior stairs to access the roof.

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Immediate Actions on Flat Roof

Upon reaching the flat roof, firefighters should immediately vent any vertical shafts they find, such as bulkhead doors and skylights.

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Venting Top Floor Windows

To vent the top floor windows, firefighters can utilize a hook or a halligan tool clipped to a short rope.

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Prioritizing Ventilation and Hoseline Access

After venting bulkheads and top floor windows, firefighters should cut open the roof to provide a means of ventilation and hoseline access. Doing these actions in reverse order will likely delay fire control.

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Ideal Ventilation Hole Size

For large-area flat roof structures, most experts recommend a ventilation hole size of 8x8 feet.

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Location of Ventilation Opening

The first step in creating a ventilation opening is to pinpoint the proper site, usually as close as possible to the fire's seat.

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Determining the Fire's Seat

Determining the location of a fire's seat can be accomplished by observing its condition, either en route to the roof or once on site.

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Additional Tactics for Locating Fire Seat

Other methods for finding the proper ventilation location include communicating with interior forces by radio, feeling soil pipes, examining the roof for bubbles and steam, and utilizing examination holes.

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Examination Hole Types

Two main types of examination holes are used: a triangle opening and a kerf cut.

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Examination Hole Dimensions

A kerf cut is 1/4 inch wide and 10 inches long, while a triangle cut measures 8 to 10 inches in size.

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Triangle Cut Functionality

The triangle cut can serve as an entry point for the distributing nozzle or other tools, such as the Bresnan distributor.

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Escape Planning: Multiple Routes

Before making any cuts, prioritize escape routes. Ensure at least two ways off the roof. If only one is available, arrange another ladder to be positioned in case the first route becomes inaccessible.

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Wind Direction & Cutting Location

The wind direction is a crucial factor when planning the location of the cut.

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Saw Operator Skillset

The saw operator must be able to cut both left- and right-handed to maintain balance and safety on the roof.

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Optimizing Cut Location

Make the cut as close to the inside of the selected joist as possible to maximize the effectiveness of the ventilation.

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Subdividing and Knocking Out

Subdivide the hole into sections, each with a maximum size of 4x4 feet. At the corners of each section, create knockout holes to fall or push down, similar to inspection holes.

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Cutting Length and Team Relief

Cutting an 8x8 foot hole on a flat roof requires 55 linear feet of cutting. Consider making initial cuts and pulling the first section to provide relief for the attack team.

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Bays and Draft Curtains

Extend ventilation openings by cutting between existing joists to create bays (sections of the roof). These bays act as draft curtains, directing smoke and heat.

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Flammability of Roof Deck Materials

Roof decking material, like waterproofing and tar paper, is highly flammable and should be treated carefully during ventilation operations.

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Burning Rubber Roofing

Newer rubber roofing materials often turn liquid when they burn, potentially creating hazards for firefighters.

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