The Melian Dialogue
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According to the Athenians, what primary concern dictates their actions towards the Melians?

  • Maintaining control over their empire and avoiding perceptions of weakness. (correct)
  • Establishing a strong alliance with the Melians to deter future conflicts.
  • Seeking economic benefits through trade and mutual cooperation.
  • Ensuring fair treatment for all independent states.
  • What best describes the Melians' initial proposal to the Athenians?

  • They propose a neutral stance, being neither allies nor enemies. (correct)
  • They offer unconditional surrender to the Athenians.
  • They seek military assistance from the Athenians against other powers.
  • They request to be a subordinate ally of the Athenians.
  • Why do the Athenians reject the Melians' offer of neutrality?

  • The Melians' military power is too significant to ignore.
  • Neutrality would upset the balance of power in the region.
  • They fear the Melians will secretly aid their enemies.
  • Their subjects would perceive neutrality as a sign of weakness. (correct)
  • What is the Athenian perspective on the concept of right and wrong in their interactions with other states?

    <p>They view right and wrong as fluid, determined only by strength. (B)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    According to the Athenians, what makes the subjugation of Melos particularly important?

    <p>Their geographical location as islanders in the sea poses a risk. (C)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    How do the Athenians frame their actions as beneficial to both themselves and the Melians?

    <p>By presenting submission as a way for the Melians to avoid destruction. (D)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    What fear do the Athenians express regarding internal threats to their empire?

    <p>The danger of a revolt of their own subject populations. (B)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    What concept do the Athenians invoke to justify their treatment of states that resist their dominion?

    <p>The primacy of practical advantage and perceived strength. (C)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    According to the Athenians, what should the Melians focus on to save their city?

    <p>Looking at the facts and considering how they can avoid destruction. (B)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    What do the Athenians say they will not do in their discussion with the Melians?

    <p>They will not use fine phrases about their right to empire or Melian past actions. (C)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    According to the Athenians, what determines the standard of justice when practical matters are discussed?

    <p>The equality of power to compel. (A)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    What principle do the Melians wish the Athenians would not destroy for the good of all men?

    <p>That there should be such a thing as fair play and just dealing for those in danger. (D)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    What do the Melians say is 'natural and understandable' for those in their position?

    <p>To have recourse to all kinds of arguments and points of view. (A)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    What are the Melians willing to do in order to proceed with the discussion?

    <p>To dismiss the idea of justice and focus on self-interest. (A)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    Why do the Athenians believe they have the right to their empire?

    <p>Because they defeated the Persians. (D)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    What does the phrase 'the strong do what they have the power to do and the weak accept what they have to accept.' imply?

    <p>That the power dynamics often dictate the outcome of conflicts and negotiations. (C)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    What was the initial request made by the Melians to the Athenians?

    <p>To negotiate a treaty that would be agreeable to both parties (B)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    What did the Athenians accuse the Melians of believing?

    <p>That they could trust Sparta for support (D)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    What strategic action did the Athenians take after the Melians refused to submit?

    <p>They built a wall around Melos to blockade the city (D)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    What was the outcome of the siege for the Melians?

    <p>They surrendered and faced severe consequences from the Athenians (B)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    What was the fate of Melos after the Athenian conquest?

    <p>It was annexed by Athens and became a colony (B)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    What is suggested as a poor choice in the face of obvious danger?

    <p>Holding on to a false sense of honour (C)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    What did the Melians trust in to help them in their situation?

    <p>The fortune from the gods (B)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    What do the Athenians imply will happen to neutral states if they continue their current actions?

    <p>They will likely become enemies of the Athenians. (A)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    What can be inferred as a significant factor in making decisions about survival?

    <p>The value of alliances (C)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    According to the discussion, what should one be careful to avoid when making decisions?

    <p>Falling into a state of voluntary disaster (B)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    According to the Melians, what would be considered cowardly behavior?

    <p>Choosing to surrender to stronger forces. (B)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    How do the Athenians perceive the threat from subjects who have been constrained by their empire?

    <p>They believe they pose a direct danger. (D)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    What was the Melians' response to the Athenian proposal?

    <p>They rejected the proposal to maintain their freedom (B)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    Which statement reflects the Melians' view on maintaining their freedom?

    <p>They feel they should fight rather than submit. (A)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    What is indicated as a safe rule when engaging with others of different status?

    <p>To show deference to those in higher positions (C)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    What underlying theme is evident in the choices facing the Melians?

    <p>The struggle between liberty and survival (B)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    According to the Athenians, what is a characteristic of hope in the context of conflict?

    <p>It can be damaging when relied upon excessively. (A)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    What is suggested about the relationship between pride and decision-making?

    <p>Pride can cloud judgment and lead to disaster (A)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    What do the Melians hope will compensate for their lack of power against the Athenians?

    <p>Support from their allies, the Spartans (C)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    What do the Athenians believe about fighting against much stronger opponents?

    <p>It seldom leads to victory. (C)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    How do the Athenians justify their actions in the conflict?

    <p>They believe they are upholding a moral law of nature (B)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    What rationale do the Melians use to justify continuing the struggle?

    <p>Defiance may yield unexpected fortune in war. (B)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    What attitude do the Athenians display towards the Melians' reliance on Spartan aid?

    <p>They express doubt about the Spartans' commitment (D)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    What do the Athenians prioritize over the concepts of honor and fair fighting?

    <p>Strategic advantage and survival. (A)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    What do the Melians believe gives them a moral advantage against the Athenians?

    <p>Fighting for what is right against wrongdoing (B)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    According to the Athenians, what is a characteristic behavior of the Spartans?

    <p>They believe what they prefer is inherently honorable (A)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    What common mistake does the speaker warn against when facing adversity?

    <p>Trusting in dubious prophecies and oracles (C)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    What does the speaker imply about hope when faced with adversity?

    <p>It can lead to one's demise if unfounded (B)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    Which principle do the Athenians assert they are following?

    <p>Natural law allows the strong to dominate (C)</p> Signup and view all the answers

    Flashcards

    Submission

    The act of accepting terms offered by a stronger power in order to avoid conflict.

    False Sense of Honor

    A belief that one's actions are justified by a sense of honor, even if those actions are unwise or harmful.

    Athens

    A powerful city-state that was known for its military strength and political influence in ancient Greece.

    Alliance

    A military alliance between two or more states that agree to cooperate in defense or other matters.

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    Tribute

    A payment made by a weaker state to a more powerful state in exchange for protection or other concessions.

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    Liberty

    The right of a people or nation to self-govern and make their own choices.

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    Great City

    A state or city that is considered to be a superior or dominant power in a region.

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    Sparta

    A Spartan city that was a rival to Athens and a strong military power.

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    Why did the Athenians think the Melians' decision was foolish?

    The Athenians believed that it was foolish for the Melians to believe in the possibility of help from the Spartans, luck, and hopes, which they considered uncertain and unreliable.

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    What was the Melians' decision?

    The Melians refused to submit to Athenian demands and put their faith in the Spartans, luck, and their own hopes for a better outcome.

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    How did the Athenians react to the Melians' response?

    The Athenians were unconvinced by the Melians' arguments and saw their reliance on uncertain factors as naive.

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    What happened after the Melians refused to yield?

    The Athenians immediately began a siege of Melos, surrounding the city with a wall and blocking it by land and sea.

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    What was the outcome of the siege of Melos?

    The Athenians ultimately conquered Melos through a combination of siege warfare and treachery from within the city. They killed all the Melians eligible for military service and sold the women and children into slavery.

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    Natural Law of Ruling

    A phrase used by the Athenians to describe their belief that the gods are neutral and that ruling over whomever one can is a natural law.

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    Athenian Realism

    The Athenian's justification for their actions; it implies a pragmatic and self-serving approach to international relations.

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    Spartan Honour and Kinship

    The Melians' hope that Sparta will intervene due to a sense of honour and kinship.

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    Athenian Critique of Spartan Honour

    The Athenians' criticism of the Melians' belief in Spartan honour, suggesting it's unrealistic and naive.

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    Melian Confidence

    The Melians' faith in their alliance with Sparta and the gods, despite their weakness.

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    Athenian Condescending Tone

    The Athenian's mockery of the Melians' reliance on Sparta, emphasizing their own power and pragmatism.

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    Athenian Justification for Action

    The Athenians' belief that they are acting in accordance with the natural order and will not be held accountable by the gods.

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    Spartan Self-interest

    The Athenians' argument that the Spartans are more interested in their own interests than in upholding principles of honour or justice.

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    Domino theory of empire

    The belief that powerful states will ultimately conquer weaker ones, leading to a chain reaction of subjugation.

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    Avoid resisting the powerful

    The Athenians' argument that it is unwise to fight a stronger adversary when defeat is likely.

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    Hope in resistance against odds

    The Melian's belief that their chances of winning are not as bleak as the Athenians suggest, and that surrender is too risky.

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    Neutral states will become enemies

    The Athenians' assertion that neutral states observing their actions will rightfully anticipate becoming targets in the future.

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    Imperialism

    The practice of imposing control and authority over another state or people, often by force or threat of force.

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    Islanders are more vulnerable

    The Athenians' argument that islanders, unlike mainland states, are more vulnerable due to their isolation and reliance on sea trade.

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    Unequal power dynamics

    A situation where one party possesses a significant advantage over another in terms of power, resources, or influence.

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    Freedom over slavery

    The Melian's argument that defying a powerful state, even with the risk of defeat, is preferable to submitting to slavery.

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    The Imperial Principle

    The principle stating that a powerful state's actions are always justified, as any potential consequence of these actions would be blamed on the weaker state.

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    Strength in Power

    A state's subjects are more likely to revolt if they perceive their rulers as weak.

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    Demonstrating Power through Aggression

    The strategy of maintaining a strong appearance, even if it involves aggressive actions, to deter challenges and maintain control.

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    No Neutrality in Empire

    The Athenians believe their subjects will perceive any act of diplomacy with neutral states as a sign of weakness.

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    Conquering As a Deterrent

    The Athenians claim that if a powerful state demonstrates weakness by not conquering a weaker state, the subjects of the powerful state will view it as a sign of fear, and possibly initiate rebellion.

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    Justifying Empire Expansion

    The argument that justifies the subjugation of independent states in order to increase the size and security of an empire.

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    Islanders as a Threat

    The Athenians believe island states, especially weaker ones, pose a significant threat to their empire's security.

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    Justice and Imperialism

    The Athenians believe their claim of being 'just', which implies that they treat all subjects equally, is a facade used to legitimize their imperial ambitions.

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    The Power Dictates Morality

    The idea that when powerful entities clash, morality and justice are irrelevant, and the strong dictate the terms while the weak must comply.

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    Athenian Justification for Conquest

    The Athenians believe that Melos should accept their rule due to their superior power and military strength, disregarding any moral claims Melos might have.

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    Melian Argument for Justice

    The Melians argue that there is universal moral principle that dictates all entities in danger deserve fair treatment and should be allowed to argue their case irrespective of their military strength.

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    Athenian Dismissal of Melian Expectations

    The Athenians argue that the Melians should not rely on potential external help or any promises of future support, as they are isolated and unable to defend themselves, leaving them at their mercy.

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    Melian Hope for Spartan Intervention

    The Melians, being a colony of Sparta, believe that their connection to Sparta might dissuade the Athenians from attacking them.

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    Irrelevance of Neutrality for Athenians

    The Athenians believe that Melos's neutrality in the war with Sparta does not matter. They are solely focused on expanding their empire and will not excuse Melos from their ambitions simply because they have not directly harmed them.

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    Melian Desire for Survival

    The Melians are desperate to maintain their independence and avoid the consequences of Athenian conquest, even if it means accepting Athenian rule and living under their control.

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    Athenian Confidence in Outcome

    The Athenians believe they hold all the cards and that their will will ultimately prevail, leading to either Melos's surrender and subjugation or a violent confrontation that results in their destruction.

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    Study Notes

    The Melian Dialogue

    • The Athenians, with allies, launched an expedition against Melos, a Spartan colony,
    • Melians initially remained neutral but later resisted joining the Athenian empire
    • Athenian representatives met with Melian representatives to negotiate.
    • Athenians argued that power dictates actions; the strong do as they will, and the weak accept what's imposed.
    • Melians countered that justice and fairness are crucial principles for all, even in war.
    • They cited their neutrality and hoped in Spartan support.
    • The Athenians insisted on Melos' surrender, refusal meant war and slavery.
    • Melians argued that their resistance would serve as a lesson.
    • Athenians countered that their victory would serve as an example of power.
    • Athenians stressed their superior military and naval power.
    • Athenians rejected Melos' plea for neutrality, asserting their right to the empire.
    • Melos prioritized freedom and independence over surrender to Athenian dominion,
    • Ultimately, Melos was conquered, with men killed, women & children enslaved, and the island colonized.

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