The Catcher In The Rye Chapter 17 Flashcards

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Why was looking at all of those girls depressing?

He kept wondering what would happen to all of them after college and they would probably marry dopey guys.

Who was Harris Macklin?

Roomed with Holden at Elkton Hills; intelligent but extremely boring and never stopped talking in a raspy voice. He could whistle better than anyone and most of the time he whistled jazz.

Holden felt like marrying her the minute he saw her.

True

What was Holden's opinion on girls who arrive late?

If they look good then who cares. Signup and view all the answers

Did Holden mean it when he told Sally he loved her?

He said it was a lie yet he meant it when he said it. Signup and view all the answers

Why did he not like Alfred Lunt and Lynn Fontanne?

They did act like people and they didn't act like actors. When one of them finished making a speech, the other one would say something fast after. Signup and view all the answers

Who was George?

Had an Ivy League sweater on; Sally knew him from somewhere ( probably from a phony party); he went to Andover; said the Lunts were angels which annoyed Holden. Signup and view all the answers

What was the worst thing about George?

He had a very phony voice that sounded like a girl and he budded into Holden's date which Holden considered rude. Signup and view all the answers

Why did George finally leave?

He had to meet his friends for cocktails. Signup and view all the answers

What did Holden and Sally do after they watched the show?

They went ice-skating at Radio City. Signup and view all the answers

What did Holden and Sally do after they went ice-skating?

They went inside to have a drink. Signup and view all the answers

What did Sally say that annoyed Holden?

"Are you or aren't you coming over to help me trim the tree Christmas Eve? I have to know." Signup and view all the answers

What does Sally keep telling Holden?

To stop shouting. Signup and view all the answers

What is the only reason Holden is in New York?

Because Sally is here. Signup and view all the answers

What is all that Holden gets out of school?

All he does is study so that he can learn enough to be smart enough to buy a Cadillac and just talk about girls, liquor, and sex all day. Signup and view all the answers

What is Holden's idea?

They could drive up to Massachusetts and Vermont; he could take money out of the bank and then stay in a cabin camp; when the money runs out, Holden could get a job; later they could get married. Signup and view all the answers

How does Sally react to this idea?

She doesn't like it; she says they are children and they would starve to death. Signup and view all the answers

What does Holden say that upsets Sally?

"You give me a royal pain in the ass, if you want to know the truth." Signup and view all the answers

What made Sally even more mad?

Holden laughed at Sally. Signup and view all the answers

What does Holden think about that whole idea later on?

He doesn't even understand why he asked her in the first place. Signup and view all the answers

Study Notes

Girls and Relationships

Holden feels depressed observing girls, worrying about their futures and likely marrying uninteresting partners.
He experienced a sudden feeling of love upon seeing a particular girl.

Harris Macklin

Roommate of Holden at Elkton Hills, known for his intelligence but also for being boring.
Notable for his exceptional whistling ability, especially jazz tunes.

Sally Hayes

Holden's conflicting feelings towards Sally are revealed; he admits to lying about his love for her but recognizes that he did mean it at the moment.
Annoyed by her persistent questioning about helping her trim the Christmas tree, he perceives it as nagging.

George

George is known for wearing an Ivy League sweater and attended Andover.
His interactions with Sally irritate Holden; he finds George's voice and demeanor to be phony.
George leaves to meet friends for cocktails, further frustrating Holden.

Activities in New York

After watching a show, Holden and Sally go ice-skating at Radio City, followed by drinks inside.
Holden's primary reason for being in New York is to be with Sally.

Holden's Perspectives

He perceives school as a mundane cycle focused on superficial topics like girls, liquor, and sex rather than genuine learning.
Holden proposes a spontaneous plan to drive to Massachusetts and Vermont, stay in a cabin, and work jobs, dreaming of marriage with Sally.

Conflict with Sally

Sally dismisses Holden's plan as immature, suggesting they would struggle to survive.
An argument escalates when Holden expresses irritation, calling Sally a “royal pain in the ass,” which shocks her further.
Laughter from Holden in response to a serious matter deepens Sally's frustration.

Reflection on the Situation

Later, Holden reflects on his proposal to Sally, feeling perplexed about why he suggested it in the first place, indicating confusion in his feelings and desires.

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Test your knowledge of Chapter 17 from 'The Catcher In The Rye' with these flashcards. Explore key characters and themes, focusing on Holden's thoughts and experiences. Perfect for students wanting to reinforce their understanding of this significant chapter.