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What advantage does Thrasyllus' order have for contemporary interpreters of Plato's works?
What advantage does Thrasyllus' order have for contemporary interpreters of Plato's works?
It serves as a neutral and traditional basis, offering common ground for contemporary interpreters, as any interpretative biases it may contain no longer concern writers.
Why is the division of Plato's dialogues into 'early', 'middle', and 'late' periods considered interpretative rather than purely chronological?
Why is the division of Plato's dialogues into 'early', 'middle', and 'late' periods considered interpretative rather than purely chronological?
This division relies more on an evolving philosophical thesis regarding Plato's authorship and the development of his philosophical thought, rather than concrete facts about when each dialogue was composed.
According to the interpretative thesis, what characterizes Plato's 'early' or 'Socratic' dialogues?
According to the interpretative thesis, what characterizes Plato's 'early' or 'Socratic' dialogues?
They are relatively short works that depict Socrates discussing his favored philosophical topics such as morality, virtue, and the best human life.
When did Plato's authorship presumable begin according to the text?
When did Plato's authorship presumable begin according to the text?
What is the significance of the founding of the Academy in the context of Plato's philosophical development, according to the interpretative thesis?
What is the significance of the founding of the Academy in the context of Plato's philosophical development, according to the interpretative thesis?
The text mentions terminology such as 'early-middle' dialogues of 'transitional' ones, what does this suggest about the classification of Plato's works?
The text mentions terminology such as 'early-middle' dialogues of 'transitional' ones, what does this suggest about the classification of Plato's works?
Briefly explain the difference between chronological and thematic groupings of Plato's dialogues.
Briefly explain the difference between chronological and thematic groupings of Plato's dialogues.
According to the initial interpretative thesis, how did Plato shift his philosophical writing after the death of Socrates?
According to the initial interpretative thesis, how did Plato shift his philosophical writing after the death of Socrates?
Why does Socrates engage in dialogue with Euthyphro, and what outcome does he hope to achieve?
Why does Socrates engage in dialogue with Euthyphro, and what outcome does he hope to achieve?
What is the primary flaw Socrates identifies in Euthyphro's suggestion that piety is simply what is loved by the gods?
What is the primary flaw Socrates identifies in Euthyphro's suggestion that piety is simply what is loved by the gods?
What kind of 'standard' is Socrates looking for when he asks, 'What is piety?'
What kind of 'standard' is Socrates looking for when he asks, 'What is piety?'
How does the dialogue suggest that piety might be related to justice, particularly in serving the gods?
How does the dialogue suggest that piety might be related to justice, particularly in serving the gods?
What does Socrates claim the gods want more than anything else?
What does Socrates claim the gods want more than anything else?
Based on the dialogue, can piety remain an independent virtue with its own standard for action?
Based on the dialogue, can piety remain an independent virtue with its own standard for action?
What is the ultimate outcome of Socrates's questioning of Euthyphro, and why does it end that way?
What is the ultimate outcome of Socrates's questioning of Euthyphro, and why does it end that way?
How does the dialogue suggest that piety may be shown simply in doing one’s best to become as morally good as possible?
How does the dialogue suggest that piety may be shown simply in doing one’s best to become as morally good as possible?
What is the primary justification for including the entire corpus of materials handed down from antiquity in a comprehensive collection of Plato's work, even works of questionable authenticity?
What is the primary justification for including the entire corpus of materials handed down from antiquity in a comprehensive collection of Plato's work, even works of questionable authenticity?
What is a key limitation regarding the texts of Plato's works that have been passed down to us?
What is a key limitation regarding the texts of Plato's works that have been passed down to us?
How might Thrasyllus' arrangement and editing of Plato's works have reflected a potentially biased perspective?
How might Thrasyllus' arrangement and editing of Plato's works have reflected a potentially biased perspective?
What rationale does the text provide for why we can be reasonably confident that we possess all of Plato's published writings?
What rationale does the text provide for why we can be reasonably confident that we possess all of Plato's published writings?
Identify two reasons why Thrasyllus' order of Plato's works may not follow a single, consistent criterion?
Identify two reasons why Thrasyllus' order of Plato's works may not follow a single, consistent criterion?
The dialogues Euthyphro, Apology, Crito, and Phaedo are presented in a specific order. What is the basis for this sequence?
The dialogues Euthyphro, Apology, Crito, and Phaedo are presented in a specific order. What is the basis for this sequence?
Explain how the dialogue Euthyphro fits into the chronological sequence of Plato's works that depict the 'Last Days of Socrates'.
Explain how the dialogue Euthyphro fits into the chronological sequence of Plato's works that depict the 'Last Days of Socrates'.
How do the dialogues Crito and Phaedo build upon the narratives established in Euthyphro and Apology?
How do the dialogues Crito and Phaedo build upon the narratives established in Euthyphro and Apology?
Summarize Euthyphro's justification for prosecuting his father.
Summarize Euthyphro's justification for prosecuting his father.
Why does Socrates want to become Euthyphro's pupil?
Why does Socrates want to become Euthyphro's pupil?
Explain the implications of Euthyphro's statement that he would be 'of no use' if he didn't have accurate knowledge of piety.
Explain the implications of Euthyphro's statement that he would be 'of no use' if he didn't have accurate knowledge of piety.
What is the central conflict or dilemma presented in Euthyphro's situation?
What is the central conflict or dilemma presented in Euthyphro's situation?
What does Euthyphro say regarding the feelings of his family?
What does Euthyphro say regarding the feelings of his family?
Explain the significance of the dead servant having been a murderer, according to Euthyphro's relatives.
Explain the significance of the dead servant having been a murderer, according to Euthyphro's relatives.
What does Euthyphro mean when he says his family's 'ideas of the divine attitude to piety and impiety are wrong'?
What does Euthyphro mean when he says his family's 'ideas of the divine attitude to piety and impiety are wrong'?
What key assumption underlines Euthyphro's decision to prosecute his father, and how might this assumption be challenged?
What key assumption underlines Euthyphro's decision to prosecute his father, and how might this assumption be challenged?
What specific offense is Euthyphro charging his father with, and why is this action considered controversial?
What specific offense is Euthyphro charging his father with, and why is this action considered controversial?
What is significant about the location where Socrates and Euthyphro meet, and what does this imply about the issues they are discussing?
What is significant about the location where Socrates and Euthyphro meet, and what does this imply about the issues they are discussing?
Why was murder considered a religious offense in ancient Athens, as described in the text?
Why was murder considered a religious offense in ancient Athens, as described in the text?
Briefly explain the charges against Socrates and the potential consequences he faces, as indicated in the provided text.
Briefly explain the charges against Socrates and the potential consequences he faces, as indicated in the provided text.
Identify two reasons why the meeting between Socrates and Euthyphro is considered relevant to the theme of piety in the context of the text.
Identify two reasons why the meeting between Socrates and Euthyphro is considered relevant to the theme of piety in the context of the text.
What prior information does the reader know about the outcome of Socrates' trial, according to the text, and how does this influence our understanding of his conversation with Euthyphro?
What prior information does the reader know about the outcome of Socrates' trial, according to the text, and how does this influence our understanding of his conversation with Euthyphro?
What is the primary significance of Theaetetus in establishing a timeline of Plato's works?
What is the primary significance of Theaetetus in establishing a timeline of Plato's works?
What stylistic features found in Laws also appear in other dialogues, and what is the significance of this overlap?
What stylistic features found in Laws also appear in other dialogues, and what is the significance of this overlap?
How does the text frame murder in relation to religious and social consequences?
How does the text frame murder in relation to religious and social consequences?
Considering the context provided, what fundamental question about religious authority and personal responsibility is raised by Euthyphro's actions?
Considering the context provided, what fundamental question about religious authority and personal responsibility is raised by Euthyphro's actions?
Besides the reference to Theaetetus, what other concrete piece of information aids in establishing the chronology of Plato's writings?
Besides the reference to Theaetetus, what other concrete piece of information aids in establishing the chronology of Plato's writings?
What are the six works that are considered to be Plato's late compositions?
What are the six works that are considered to be Plato's late compositions?
What limitation does stylometry face when applied to Plato's dialogues?
What limitation does stylometry face when applied to Plato's dialogues?
Name four dialogues that some scholars claim form the latest group of Plato's non-late works.
Name four dialogues that some scholars claim form the latest group of Plato's non-late works.
How does identifying the chronological order of Plato's dialogues impact our understanding of his philosophical development?
How does identifying the chronological order of Plato's dialogues impact our understanding of his philosophical development?
Stylometric investigations suggest what about the relationship between Timaeus and Critias?
Stylometric investigations suggest what about the relationship between Timaeus and Critias?
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Agora
Agora
Central marketplace of Athens; location of Socrates' encounter with Euthyphro.
Magistrate
Magistrate
Legal official who files preliminary legal charges.
Impiety
Impiety
The charge brought against Socrates, leading to his trial and execution.
Murder Charges
Murder Charges
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Pollution (Religious)
Pollution (Religious)
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Religious Offense
Religious Offense
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Euthyphro
Euthyphro
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Impious
Impious
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Thrasyllus’ Order
Thrasyllus’ Order
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Chronological Groupings
Chronological Groupings
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Interpretative Thesis
Interpretative Thesis
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Socratic Dialogues
Socratic Dialogues
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Middle Period
Middle Period
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Post-Academy Ideas
Post-Academy Ideas
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Early Dialogues Theme
Early Dialogues Theme
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Plato's Development
Plato's Development
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Who was Thrasyllus?
Who was Thrasyllus?
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Significance of Thrasyllus' edition
Significance of Thrasyllus' edition
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Potential bias in Thrasyllus' edition
Potential bias in Thrasyllus' edition
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Order of Euthyphro, Apology, Crito, Phaedo
Order of Euthyphro, Apology, Crito, Phaedo
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Euthyphro setting
Euthyphro setting
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Apology content
Apology content
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Crito setting
Crito setting
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Phaedo content
Phaedo content
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Laws (dialogue)
Laws (dialogue)
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Theaetetus (dialogue)
Theaetetus (dialogue)
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Sophist and Statesman
Sophist and Statesman
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Stylometry
Stylometry
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Late Period dialogues
Late Period dialogues
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List of Late dialogues
List of Late dialogues
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Stylistic Affiliation
Stylistic Affiliation
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Non-late Group Dialogues
Non-late Group Dialogues
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Socrates' Goal (Piety)
Socrates' Goal (Piety)
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Piety & Divine Love
Piety & Divine Love
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Euthyphro's Final Suggestion
Euthyphro's Final Suggestion
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Piety as Moral Goodness
Piety as Moral Goodness
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Independent Virtue
Independent Virtue
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Socratic Method
Socratic Method
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Justice and Kinship
Justice and Kinship
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Pollution & Justice
Pollution & Justice
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Euthyphro's Case
Euthyphro's Case
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Euthyphro's Confidence
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Socrates' Strategy
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Meletus' Accusation
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Victim Status Irrelevant
Victim Status Irrelevant
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Family's Opposition
Family's Opposition
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Study Notes
- The text introduces a comprehensive collection of Plato's works, emphasizing the inclusion of all materials passed down from antiquity.
- The compilation relies on the edition of Thrasyllus, an ancient scholar whose work, prepared nearly four hundred years after Plato's death, was based on various texts and potentially influenced by his philosophical understanding.
- Thrasyllus included all genuine works of Plato referenced by ancient authors, along with some disputed ones.
- Thrasyllus' order isn't determined by a single criterion but reflects a unified idea for reading and teaching the dialogues.
- The first four works (Euthyphro, Apology, Crito, Phaedo) follow a chronological order, depicting the 'Last Days of Socrates'.
- Modern approaches often group Platonic dialogues chronologically, dividing them into 'early', 'middle', and 'late' periods.
- This division is primarily based on interpretations of Plato's philosophical development, assuming he began writing after Socrates’ death in 399 B.C.
- According to this view, Plato's early dialogues feature Socrates discussing morality and virtue, while later works reflect Plato's independent philosophical ideas after founding the Academy.
- Hard facts about Plato's writings chronology are scarce, with Laws being unpublished at his death and Theaetetus seemingly honoring a mathematician who died in 369 B.C.
- Stylometric investigations suggest Timaeus, Sophist, Statesman, Philebus, and Critias, along with Laws, constitute Plato's late period.
- Hackett Publishing Company acknowledges scholars' contributions to new translations of Plato.
Euthyphro Dialogue
- The dialogue is set in the agora of Athens, where Socrates encounters Euthyphro before the magistrate's office.
- Socrates is there to address impiety charges, which will lead to his death, as revealed in the Apology.
- Euthyphro is prosecuting his father for the murder of a servant, a religiously sensitive issue due to potential 'pollution'. Euthyphro claims esoteric knowledge about the gods and piety, prompting Socrates to seek his wisdom to defend against his accusations.
- Euthyphro is unable to provide satisfactory answers, failing to clarify the essence of piety despite his belief that he knows it.
- Socrates aims to find a single 'model' or 'standard' to determine what is pious, providing clear and consistent answers.
- Socrates seeks a standard that stands alone, unlike Euthyphro's suggestion that piety is being loved by the gods, needing prior knowledge of the gods' preferences.
- Piety as being loved by the gods is a secondary quality, not piety's 'essence.'
- Socrates seems sincere and has no pre-set answer to test or advocate for.
- Piety may be shown by striving to be as morally good as possible with the gods.
- Socrates questions if piety could remain an indecent virtue if he did his best to me as morally good as possible,
- Euthyphro believes prosecuting is right, considering the act must be just.
- Euthyphro believes there is no difference if the victim is a stranger or relative, one should prosecute and cleanse.
- Euthyphro believes his knowledge of the divine is accurate enough to prosecute his own father for murder.
- Socrates wants to become Euthyphro's pupil and challenge Meletus on the matter of knowledge about the divine.
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A comprehensive collection of Plato's works, including all materials passed down from antiquity. The compilation relies on the edition of Thrasyllus and includes both genuine and disputed works of Plato. The first four works depict the 'Last Days of Socrates'.