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What does it mean for a system to be Turing complete?
What does it mean for a system to be Turing complete?
- It can perform any input/output function. (correct)
- It can only simulate biological systems.
- It can only process digital information.
- It can only perform basic arithmetic calculations.
What is a key implication if only certain Turing complete systems (e.g., biological systems) can create consciousness?
What is a key implication if only certain Turing complete systems (e.g., biological systems) can create consciousness?
- It's easy to gather data to support this theory.
- Behavioral data cannot be used to test this theory. (correct)
- Consciousness can be defined by behavior.
- All Turing complete systems will eventually become conscious.
In the context of the argument, what are 'inputs' referring to?
In the context of the argument, what are 'inputs' referring to?
- Complex mathematical calculations.
- The internal state of a system.
- External stimuli. (correct)
- Internal thoughts and feelings.
When is an implementation considered 'epiphenomenal' with regards to the i/o function?
When is an implementation considered 'epiphenomenal' with regards to the i/o function?
If consciousness is epiphenomenal, what does this imply about consciousness in relation to the overt behavior of a being?
If consciousness is epiphenomenal, what does this imply about consciousness in relation to the overt behavior of a being?
If two beings exhibit the exact same input/output function, but have different implementations, what does the provided text suggest regarding determining whether they are conscious or not?
If two beings exhibit the exact same input/output function, but have different implementations, what does the provided text suggest regarding determining whether they are conscious or not?
What is the central challenge in identifying consciousness when analyzing overt behaviors?
What is the central challenge in identifying consciousness when analyzing overt behaviors?
What does an RN (reversed network) do?
What does an RN (reversed network) do?
According to the provided quote, what would be a consequence if mental states do not cause physical actions?
According to the provided quote, what would be a consequence if mental states do not cause physical actions?
What does the concept of 'changing the implementation while keeping the i/o function constant' refer to?
What does the concept of 'changing the implementation while keeping the i/o function constant' refer to?
What does an FN (forward network) do?
What does an FN (forward network) do?
In the context of the content, what does 'i' represent in the 'i/o' framework?
In the context of the content, what does 'i' represent in the 'i/o' framework?
If masking reduces recurrent processing, what could a forward network (FN) do?
If masking reduces recurrent processing, what could a forward network (FN) do?
If anaesthesia reduces recurrent processing (RP), what could be a possible outcome of an FN in this scenario?
If anaesthesia reduces recurrent processing (RP), what could be a possible outcome of an FN in this scenario?
What does 'o' represent in the 'i/o' framework?
What does 'o' represent in the 'i/o' framework?
What does the statement 'I see a tree!' represent in the provided content?
What does the statement 'I see a tree!' represent in the provided content?
If less phi/RP is detected during sleep, what could be a possible outcome of an RN in this scenario?
If less phi/RP is detected during sleep, what could be a possible outcome of an RN in this scenario?
What would be the result of implementing an input-output function with feedforward processing/low phi, if it was previously implemented with recurrent processing/high phi, in a human or monkey?
What would be the result of implementing an input-output function with feedforward processing/low phi, if it was previously implemented with recurrent processing/high phi, in a human or monkey?
According to the content, what is the relationship between wanting, reaching, itching and scratching with regard to causality?
According to the content, what is the relationship between wanting, reaching, itching and scratching with regard to causality?
If the relationship between thoughts and actions described in the quote is not true, what would that indicate?
If the relationship between thoughts and actions described in the quote is not true, what would that indicate?
What can be said about functions that are independent of implementation?
What can be said about functions that are independent of implementation?
In the provided content, which of the following represents an internal state?
In the provided content, which of the following represents an internal state?
What is the primary concern regarding the use of infinite loops in the context of the ideas presented?
What is the primary concern regarding the use of infinite loops in the context of the ideas presented?
In the auditory cortex implant example provided, what is the relationship between the input and the output of the spike trains?
In the auditory cortex implant example provided, what is the relationship between the input and the output of the spike trains?
According to the context, what is a key distinction between Turing completeness and universal function approximators?
According to the context, what is a key distinction between Turing completeness and universal function approximators?
How is functionality defined in Integrated Information Theory (IIT), according to the content?
How is functionality defined in Integrated Information Theory (IIT), according to the content?
How does the concept of input in the discussed argument relate to Global Workspace Theory?
How does the concept of input in the discussed argument relate to Global Workspace Theory?
What is a major criticism regarding the input and output (i/o) that has been identified in the paper, according to the content?
What is a major criticism regarding the input and output (i/o) that has been identified in the paper, according to the content?
According to the content, why is the focus on solely behavioral output criticized?
According to the content, why is the focus on solely behavioral output criticized?
What does Doerig et al.'s argument primarily equate as input in their model?
What does Doerig et al.'s argument primarily equate as input in their model?
What does Doerig et al.'s argument primarily consider as the output?
What does Doerig et al.'s argument primarily consider as the output?
According to the provided content, what happens to a system if the implementation changes while the input/output (i/o) function remains the same?
According to the provided content, what happens to a system if the implementation changes while the input/output (i/o) function remains the same?
What conclusion is drawn if implementation equals experience, as described in the content?
What conclusion is drawn if implementation equals experience, as described in the content?
Based on the content, why might the science of consciousness be considered impossible?
Based on the content, why might the science of consciousness be considered impossible?
What is the significance of Turing completeness in the context of the content?
What is the significance of Turing completeness in the context of the content?
According to the content, what is specifically meant by a change in 'implementation'?
According to the content, what is specifically meant by a change in 'implementation'?
What is an argument's central premise that leads to the conclusion that the science of consciousness is impossible?
What is an argument's central premise that leads to the conclusion that the science of consciousness is impossible?
What is the role of measurements in the given argument about the science of consciousness?
What is the role of measurements in the given argument about the science of consciousness?
According to the content, why is a closed infinite loop relevant to the discussion on recurrent and feedforward networks?
According to the content, why is a closed infinite loop relevant to the discussion on recurrent and feedforward networks?
What is a core assumption of empirical science that is violated by implementationism?
What is a core assumption of empirical science that is violated by implementationism?
What is the key argument regarding sensory experiences and their relation to beliefs and reports?
What is the key argument regarding sensory experiences and their relation to beliefs and reports?
What does it mean for sensory experiences to be 'epiphenomenal' in the context of this discussion?
What does it mean for sensory experiences to be 'epiphenomenal' in the context of this discussion?
What is the implication of sensory experiences being decoupled from thoughts and behavior?
What is the implication of sensory experiences being decoupled from thoughts and behavior?
Why would empirical science become impossible if sensory experiences have no causal impact on thoughts or behavior?
Why would empirical science become impossible if sensory experiences have no causal impact on thoughts or behavior?
What is meant by the phrase 'something has got to give' at the end of the text?
What is meant by the phrase 'something has got to give' at the end of the text?
What is the main issue with invoking 'spooky experiences', according to the text?
What is the main issue with invoking 'spooky experiences', according to the text?
If spooky experiences are not allowed, what argument is made about Integrated Information Theory (IIT) and implementationist theories?
If spooky experiences are not allowed, what argument is made about Integrated Information Theory (IIT) and implementationist theories?
Flashcards
Reversing Brain Function
Reversing Brain Function
The brain can be modified to produce the opposite behavior of what is normally observed.
Functional Equivalence
Functional Equivalence
It is possible to create a system that behaves exactly like the real brain, despite having a different underlying implementation.
Input-Output Function
Input-Output Function
The relationship between input and output, regardless of the internal mechanisms used to produce that output.
Phi
Phi
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Recurrent Processing
Recurrent Processing
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Reversed Implementation
Reversed Implementation
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Implementation Independence
Implementation Independence
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Example I
Example I
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Implementation doesn't affect behavior
Implementation doesn't affect behavior
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Consciousness and Implementation
Consciousness and Implementation
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Feedforward Neural Network (FN)
Feedforward Neural Network (FN)
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Recurrent Neural Network (RN)
Recurrent Neural Network (RN)
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Turing Completeness
Turing Completeness
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Science of Consciousness Implication
Science of Consciousness Implication
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Implementation Irrelevance
Implementation Irrelevance
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Behavioral Indistinguishability
Behavioral Indistinguishability
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Universal Function Approximator
Universal Function Approximator
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Integrated Information Theory (IIT)
Integrated Information Theory (IIT)
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Global Workspace Theory
Global Workspace Theory
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Relevant Input/Output
Relevant Input/Output
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Internal Experience of Consciousness
Internal Experience of Consciousness
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Consciousness is Not a Simple I/O Function
Consciousness is Not a Simple I/O Function
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Causally Responsible Mental States
Causally Responsible Mental States
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If Mental States Aren't Causally Linked to Action...
If Mental States Aren't Causally Linked to Action...
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I/O Function
I/O Function
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Example I: Auditory Cortex Replacement
Example I: Auditory Cortex Replacement
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Turing Completeness and I/O Functions
Turing Completeness and I/O Functions
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Untestable Consciousness Theories
Untestable Consciousness Theories
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Epiphenomenal Implementation
Epiphenomenal Implementation
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Epiphenomenal Consciousness
Epiphenomenal Consciousness
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Unfalsifiable Consciousness
Unfalsifiable Consciousness
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Testing Consciousness Implementation
Testing Consciousness Implementation
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Doerig et al.'s Argument
Doerig et al.'s Argument
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The Problem of Consciousness
The Problem of Consciousness
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Illusionism
Illusionism
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Implementationism
Implementationism
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Empirical Grounding
Empirical Grounding
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Spooky Experiences
Spooky Experiences
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Epiphenomenalism
Epiphenomenalism
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Falsifiability
Falsifiability
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Unreliable Visual Experiences
Unreliable Visual Experiences
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All Beliefs are Caused by I/O Function
All Beliefs are Caused by I/O Function
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Study Notes
Lecture 2: The Unfolding Argument
- Today's lecture covers summarizing the paper, analyzing the argument, and previewing illusionism or non-computationalism.
- Functions can be implemented on any universal function approximator.
- Functions determine behavior, but implementation of functions does not.
- If implementation equals experiences, then experience is independent of behavior, leading to the conclusion that a science of consciousness is impossible.
- Consciousness is epiphenomenal, meaning consciousness is a byproduct of the algorithm, not influencing any behavior or introspection.
- Consciousness' relationship to its function is that it doesn't matter, consciousness is just as a byproduct that is not influenced by the function.
- Implementation matters given theories like recurrent processing theory of consciousness and Integrated Information Theory (IIT).
- Recurrent processing theory states consciousness arises only during recurrent processing, and IIT defines integration of information as equivalent to consciousness.
- Implementationist theories are fundamentally flawed, using behavioral and introspective tests to test the theories which do not follow logical steps and will actually falsify the theory itself.
- Functions are independent of implementation, and implementation can be reversed.
- An input-output function can be implemented in infinitely many networks that are universal function approximators.
- Input can be spike trains, stimuli, TMS pulse etc. and output can be neural input of later brain areas, verbal reports, overt behavior, etc.
- Universal Turing machines include RN network, FN network, laptop, cellular automata, cyclic tag system, etc..
- An RN can produce opposite behavior as normally observed, and an FN can produce the exact same behavior as normally observed.
Summary of the Argument
- Functions can be implemented on any universal function approximator.
- Functions determine behavior, while implementation does not.
- If implementation equals experiences, then experience is independent of behavior.
- A science of consciousness is therefore impossible.
Technical Problems
- The relevant notion is Turing completeness, not universal function approximator.
- Recurrent networks (RNs) are Turing complete, but feedforward networks (FNs) are probably not.
- RNs have closed, infinite loops, while FNs have an infinite number of layers.
- It is unclear under what biological circumstances infinite loops are needed.
- The claim that FNs can instantiate any function is false.
- Function definition for the theory is not explicitly defined, and is unclear what input/output functions are relevant to science.
- Not clear if the argument is relevant to biology, as only overt behavior is focused on and not on subjective conscious experience.
Doerig et al.’s Argument
- Input = external stimuli
- Output = overt behavior
- Every Turing complete system can instantiate any i/o function.
- If a theory claims that only certain Turing complete systems create consciousness (e.g., biological systems) then no behavioral data can ever be acquired to falsify this theory.
Implementation Does Not Matter
- The implementation of a function does not affect the behavior.
- Behavior will be the same in different implementations.
- Replacing biological parts with a machine that copies the function will result in the same behavioral output but not be able to have subjective experiences
Analysis of the Argument
- There is no way to prove, or disapprove consciousness (i.e., an introspection paradox).
- You can't measure consciousness, only behavior that could be caused by something else and not consciousness.
Implications for Consciousness Science
- If the i/o function is the same but the implementation differs, then measuring the behavior can not distinguish which one has awareness/consciousness.
- This implies that consciousness and implementations are unrelated
- Empirical science requires grounding cognition in overt behavior; otherwise, theories cannot be falsified.
Illusionism or Non-computationalism
- Doerig’s argument can be clarified; input = external stimuli, output = overt behaviors/beliefs and cognition.
- Sensory experiences are not deducible from I/O functions.
- All beliefs/reports are caused by I/O function.
- Sensory experiences are epiphenomenal in relation to beliefs.
- Sensory experiences are decoupled from thoughts and behavior, so a science of consciousness is impossible.
- If consciousness is not measurable then it is outside of science.
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