Nice Guys and Relationships

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No More Mr. Nice Guy

Why do Nice Guys end up in therapy?

  • Because they are afraid of intimacy
  • Because they are too perfect
  • Because they have a problem in their most intimate relationship (correct)
  • Because they are angry

Nice Guys are good at intimacy.

False (B)

What is the main reason why Nice Guys struggle to get the love they want?

<p>Toxic shame, dysfunctional relationships, patterns of enmeshment and avoidance, and childhood survival mechanisms</p> Signup and view all the answers

What is one way Nice Guys recreate familiar childhood relationship patterns?

<p>By choosing a partner who has similar traits to their parents (C)</p> Signup and view all the answers

What is the unconscious need that prevents Nice Guys from getting the love they want?

<p>The need to remain monogamous to their mothers</p> Signup and view all the answers

Nice Guys are good at ending relationships.

<p>False (B)</p> Signup and view all the answers

What is the key to successful relationships for recovering Nice Guys?

<p>Approving of themselves, putting themselves first, and revealing themselves to safe people</p> Signup and view all the answers

What was George's realization about his attempts to please Susan?

<p>His attempts to please her weren't working and were causing him to feel resentful.</p> Signup and view all the answers

What was the result of George setting boundaries with Susan?

<p>Susan began taking charge of her own life and became less dependent on George (C)</p> Signup and view all the answers

What is the Second Date Rule?

<p>It's a rule to ask oneself if they would have gone on a second date with someone if they had exhibited the same behavior on the first date.</p> Signup and view all the answers

What is the Healthy Male Rule?

<p>Asking oneself how a healthy male would handle a situation (C)</p> Signup and view all the answers

Reinforcing undesirable behaviors can make them go away.

<p>False (B)</p> Signup and view all the answers

What is the result of not reinforcing undesirable behaviors?

<p>The behavior is less likely to occur again.</p> Signup and view all the answers

What should Nice Guys look for in a new partner?

<p>Someone who is already taking responsibility for their own life (D)</p> Signup and view all the answers

What is a common issue that Nice Guys face when they are already in a sexual relationship and want to address unacceptable traits or behaviors in their partner?

<p>It is difficult to address these issues and even tougher to end the relationship.</p> Signup and view all the answers

What is the key to recovering Nice Guys having fulfilling, intimate relationships?

<p>Embracing the challenge</p> Signup and view all the answers

What is the underlying reason for Nice Guys' problems with sex?

<p>Shame and fear</p> Signup and view all the answers

What do Nice Guys often do to distract themselves from their internal shame and fear?

<p>Try to be a good lover</p> Signup and view all the answers

What is the problem with Nice Guys trying to be great lovers?

<p>It creates a recipe for boring sex</p> Signup and view all the answers

What do Nice Guys often use as a distraction from their feelings of loneliness, worthlessness, and boredom?

<p>Sex</p> Signup and view all the answers

What is the result of Nice Guys repressing their life energy?

<p>There is little about them to attract or turn on a partner</p> Signup and view all the answers

What is common in Aaron and Hannah's relationship?

<p>Not having sex for several weeks</p> Signup and view all the answers

What does Aaron do to arouse Hannah?

<p>Massages her shoulders and rubs her back</p> Signup and view all the answers

Why does Aaron have a difficult time climaxing?

<p>Because he is disconnected from his own physical arousal</p> Signup and view all the answers

What does Aaron do to help himself climax?

<p>He fantasizes about the young secretary at work</p> Signup and view all the answers

How does Aaron feel after climaxing?

<p>Empty and resentful</p> Signup and view all the answers

What is the first step in getting good sex?

<p>Coming out of the closet (D)</p> Signup and view all the answers

Why is it necessary to release shame and fear?

<p>To get good sex</p> Signup and view all the answers

Who can help a Nice Guy release shame and fear?

<p>Accepting, non-judgmental people</p> Signup and view all the answers

Can a Nice Guy do the work of releasing shame and fear on his own?

<p>False (B)</p> Signup and view all the answers

What is necessary to release sexual shame and fear?

<p>Exposing every aspect of his sexual self to safe, supportive people</p> Signup and view all the answers

What is the result of releasing shame and fear?

<p>The Nice Guy releases emotional energy (B)</p> Signup and view all the answers

Why is it important to talk openly and comfortably about masturbation?

<p>To release shame and fear</p> Signup and view all the answers

What happens when a recovering Nice Guy brings his sexual shame out of the closet?

<p>He feels relief and releases emotional energy</p> Signup and view all the answers

What is the result of Lyle coming out of the closet?

<p>He began to heal a lifetime of hidden sexual behavior</p> Signup and view all the answers

Why is it important for recovering Nice Guys to reveal their dark side?

<p>To release shame and gain important information</p> Signup and view all the answers

What is necessary for a recovering Nice Guy to get the sex he wants?

<p>Taking responsibility for his own sexual needs</p> Signup and view all the answers

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Study Notes

Nice Guys and Intimate Relationships

  • Nice Guys struggle with intimate relationships due to internalized toxic shame and childhood survival mechanisms.
  • They often feel anxious, helpless, and frustrated in their relationships.

Karl's Story

  • Karl, a successful businessman, felt intimidated by his wife Danita and described her as "angry all the time" and "relentless".
  • He lied to her and avoided interacting with her due to fear of her anger.
  • Karl's behavior was a result of his childhood experiences with his mother, whom he also tried to avoid.

Nice Guys in Therapy

  • Nice Guys often end up in therapy due to a crisis in their relationship or because of a hidden behavior that has been discovered.
  • They believe there is a simple solution to their problem, such as stopping a certain behavior or changing their partner.

Intimacy and Nice Guys

  • Intimacy requires vulnerability, which is difficult for Nice Guys due to their internalized toxic shame.
  • Nice Guys fear being found out and seek to hide their perceived flaws.

Co-creating Dysfunctional Relationships

  • Nice Guys co-create relationships that are dysfunctional and frustrating for all parties involved.
  • They often pick partners who are equally wounded and also struggle with intimacy.
  • This balancing act ensures that their closest relationship is their least intimate.

Patterns of Enmeshment and Avoidance

  • Enmeshing Nice Guys make their partner their emotional center and sacrifice their own needs and desires.
  • Avoiding Nice Guys are emotionally unavailable to their partner while playing the Nice Guy role outside of the relationship.

Childhood Relationship Dynamics

  • Nice Guys often recreate childhood relationship patterns in their adult relationships.
  • They may choose partners who have similar traits to their parents or project these traits onto their partner.

Unconscious Need to Remain Monogamous to Mom

  • Nice Guys tend to maintain a monogamous bond with their mothers, which inhibits intimate relationships with partners.
  • They may use various behaviors to maintain this bond, such as over-involvement with work or hobbies, addictions, or forming relationships with people who need fixing.

Being Bad Enders

  • Nice Guys have difficulty getting the love they want because they spend too much time trying to make bad relationships work.
  • They may try to end relationships indirectly, blaming their partner or doing it too late.

Strategies for Building Successful Relationships

  • Approve of themselves and put themselves first.
  • Reveal themselves to safe people.
  • Eliminate covert contracts.
  • Take responsibility for their own needs.
  • Surrender.
  • Dwell in reality.
  • Express their feelings.
  • Develop integrity.
  • Set boundaries.
  • Embrace their masculinity.

Recovery from the Nice Guy Syndrome

  • Recovery involves changing one's life and applying strategies for building successful relationships.
  • This can affect current relationships, either growing and evolving them or ending them.

Setting Boundaries in Relationships

  • Setting healthy boundaries with partners is crucial for Nice Guys to feel safe and experience true intimacy
  • Boundaries help create a situation where both partners can feel vulnerable and intimate

The Importance of Boundary Setting

  • A partner's initial reaction to boundary setting may be intense, as they test the Nice Guy's resolve
  • However, setting boundaries makes a partner feel secure and loved
  • When a Nice Guy fails to set boundaries, it communicates that he doesn't honor himself, which can lead to a lack of respect

Decision-Making Tools

  • The Second Date Rule: ask if you would have continued dating if this behavior had occurred on the second date
  • The Healthy Male Rule: ask how a healthy male would handle a situation

Healthy Relationships

  • Focusing on the relationship rather than the partner helps Nice Guys get the love they want
  • It's essential to identify and challenge unhealthy patterns in relationships

Self-Reflection

  • Asking questions like "Why did I need to co-create this relationship?" and "How does this relationship let me play familiar roles?" can help Nice Guys understand their motivations and desires

Non-Reinforcement of Undesirable Behaviors

  • Ignoring undesirable behaviors can help them disappear
  • Not reinforcing these behaviors can lead to a shift in the relationship dynamic

Doing Something Different

  • Nice Guys should strive to enter relationships with a healthy agenda, rather than an unconscious, dysfunctional one
  • Choosing a partner who is already taking responsibility for their life can improve the odds of finding a fulfilling relationship

Traits to Look for in a Partner

  • Passion, integrity, happiness, intelligence, sexual assertiveness, financial responsibility, and commitment to personal growth

Sex and Relationships

  • Nice Guys often have problematic relationships with sex due to shame, fear, and dysfunctional survival mechanisms
  • Common issues include not getting enough sex, settling for unsatisfying sex, sexual dysfunction, repression, and compulsive behavior

Shame and Fear

  • Nice Guys' difficulties with sex are linked to shame and fear about being sexual and about being sexual beings

  • Unconscious shame and fear can be rooted in childhood experiences, societal distortions, and the absence of accurate sexual information.### Sexual Shame and Guilt in Nice Guys

  • Nice Guys carry unconscious baggage that prevents them from having a fulfilling sex life, including: • Centuries of religious influence and associated guilt • Covert sexual bonds created by their mothers • Trauma from sexual violations • Secretive early sexual experiences • Unrealistic and distorted body images from pornography • Shame of hidden, compulsive behaviors • Memories of previous sexual failures or rejections

Avoidance of Sexual Situations

  • Nice Guys find creative ways to avoid or distract themselves from their sexual shame and fear, including: • Avoiding sexual situations and opportunities • Trying to be a good lover • Hiding compulsive sexual behaviors • Repressing their life energy • Settling for bad sex

Vagiphobia

  • Vagiphobia: a syndrome where the penis tries to stay out of vaginas or gets out quickly once it is in
  • Example of Alan, who engaged in flirting and sexualized relationships outside of his marriage but avoided consummating them

Trying to be a Good Lover

  • Nice Guys try to be good lovers to distract themselves from their internalized shame and fear
  • They focus on their partner's arousal and pleasure to convince themselves they are different from other men
  • Terrance, a Nice Guy, worked hard to please his girlfriend but frequently ejaculated prematurely

Hiding Compulsive Sexual Behaviors

  • Nice Guys believe that sex is a solution to loneliness, boredom, and feelings of worthlessness
  • They use sex as a distraction from their internalized shame and fear
  • Because they believe they are bad for being sexual, they hide their sexual impulses and behaviors

Repressing Life Energy

  • Nice Guys repress their life energy by trying to be nice and seeking approval
  • This prevents them from experiencing intimate and fulfilling sex with another person
  • Women are often drawn to the pleasing demeanor of Nice Guys but find it difficult to get excited about having sex with them

Settling for Bad Sex

  • Nice Guys settle for bad sex by focusing on their partner's arousal and pleasure
  • They often pester their partner for sex and may engage in indirect and resentful behavior
  • Aaron, a Nice Guy, would engage in indirect and resentful sexual behavior with his wife, Hannah

Breaking Free from Sexual Shame

  • Recovering Nice Guys must bring their shame and fear out of the closet and into the open
  • They need accepting, non-judgmental people to release their shame and fear
  • The process of releasing shame and fear frees up emotional energy and allows for a more fulfilling sex life

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