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What primary criticism was initially leveled against Marx's socialism regarding environmental concerns?
What primary criticism was initially leveled against Marx's socialism regarding environmental concerns?
- Its alleged 'Promethean' advocacy for the domination of nature. (correct)
- Its perceived anti-technological stance, hindering economic progress.
- Its indifference to social class divisions within environmental movements.
- Its focus on agricultural reform at the expense of industrial development.
How did the environmental disasters in the USSR, such as the Chernobyl disaster, impact the perception of socialism among environmentalists?
How did the environmental disasters in the USSR, such as the Chernobyl disaster, impact the perception of socialism among environmentalists?
- They had no significant impact on the pre-existing views of environmentalists.
- They led to increased cooperation between socialist states and environmental organizations.
- They strengthened the conviction that socialism could not establish a sustainable society. (correct)
- They reinforced the idea that socialism could establish a perfectly sustainable society.
What has been a result of the ineffectiveness of conventional market-based solutions to ecological issues?
What has been a result of the ineffectiveness of conventional market-based solutions to ecological issues?
- A return to pre-industrial economic practices.
- A renewed interest in more heterodox approaches, including Marxian economics. (correct)
- A decreased interest in Marxian economics.
- A global consensus on environmental regulations.
Which theory is credited with paving the way for the rediscovery of Marx's ecology?
Which theory is credited with paving the way for the rediscovery of Marx's ecology?
According to critics, what aspect of Marx's view was said to have ignored the problem of natural limits?
According to critics, what aspect of Marx's view was said to have ignored the problem of natural limits?
What did Leszek Kołakowski maintain was a typical feature of Marx's Prometheanism?
What did Leszek Kołakowski maintain was a typical feature of Marx's Prometheanism?
How did the collapse of the USSR affect criticisms against Marx's ecological views?
How did the collapse of the USSR affect criticisms against Marx's ecological views?
Who explicitly concludes that Marx was not an 'ecologically conscious person in the modern sense'?
Who explicitly concludes that Marx was not an 'ecologically conscious person in the modern sense'?
What is considered one of the most important developments in Marxian scholarship after the collapse of actually existing socialism in Eastern Europe?
What is considered one of the most important developments in Marxian scholarship after the collapse of actually existing socialism in Eastern Europe?
What did Foster and Burkett reveal through their analysis of Marx's reception of Justus von Liebig's theory?
What did Foster and Burkett reveal through their analysis of Marx's reception of Justus von Liebig's theory?
What concept did Foster explicate based on Marx's concept of metabolism?
What concept did Foster explicate based on Marx's concept of metabolism?
What did David Riazanov negatively comment on, which contributed to the neglect of Marx's interest in ecological issues?
What did David Riazanov negatively comment on, which contributed to the neglect of Marx's interest in ecological issues?
What does the MEGA² edition document regarding Marx's ecological critique of capitalism?
What does the MEGA² edition document regarding Marx's ecological critique of capitalism?
What did Mészáros warn about regarding the development of productive forces under capitalism?
What did Mészáros warn about regarding the development of productive forces under capitalism?
What does Mészáros identify as capital's 'necessary inability'?
What does Mészáros identify as capital's 'necessary inability'?
What does Marx define as the most fundamental category of Marxism in relation to the metabolism between humans and nature?
What does Marx define as the most fundamental category of Marxism in relation to the metabolism between humans and nature?
According to Mészáros, what does the unceasing interaction between humans and nature constitute?
According to Mészáros, what does the unceasing interaction between humans and nature constitute?
What is the primary goal of capitalist production, contrasting it with pre-capitalist societies?
What is the primary goal of capitalist production, contrasting it with pre-capitalist societies?
What happens when capital's 'second-order mediations' are incompatible with transhistorical material characteristics of metabolism?
What happens when capital's 'second-order mediations' are incompatible with transhistorical material characteristics of metabolism?
What is a fundamental problem of capitalist second mediation that manifests itself in the moment of ecological crisis?
What is a fundamental problem of capitalist second mediation that manifests itself in the moment of ecological crisis?
What does Mészáros believe capital's limits can no longer be conceptualized as?
What does Mészáros believe capital's limits can no longer be conceptualized as?
What did Marx warn against regarding the 'irreparable rift'?
What did Marx warn against regarding the 'irreparable rift'?
According to Marx, what is a favorite example of metabolic rift under the regime of capital?
According to Marx, what is a favorite example of metabolic rift under the regime of capital?
What does Liebig highlight the importance of respecting in his agricultural chemistry?
What does Liebig highlight the importance of respecting in his agricultural chemistry?
What does Marx formulate as a contradiction created by capitalist production?
What does Marx formulate as a contradiction created by capitalist production?
How does Marx characterize the antagonistic spatial relationship between town and country?
How does Marx characterize the antagonistic spatial relationship between town and country?
What does Andreas Malm's Fossil Capital provide an example of?
What does Andreas Malm's Fossil Capital provide an example of?
What is the relation between capital's time and nature's time?
What is the relation between capital's time and nature's time?
What examples does Marx give of an imbalance given rise to by capital in the long production time?
What examples does Marx give of an imbalance given rise to by capital in the long production time?
What is essential for capital to secure stable access to cheap?
What is essential for capital to secure stable access to cheap?
Which has caused agrochemicals to leak into the environment in metabolic rift shift?
Which has caused agrochemicals to leak into the environment in metabolic rift shift?
Who warns about civilization in 19th century would collapse due to agriculture?
Who warns about civilization in 19th century would collapse due to agriculture?
Who admits that normality of externalization is distant memory?
Who admits that normality of externalization is distant memory?
What does Luxembourg criticizes Marx's theory of capitalism for?
What does Luxembourg criticizes Marx's theory of capitalism for?
What did Luxembourg find as absolute limit to capital?
What did Luxembourg find as absolute limit to capital?
Flashcards
Marx's Ecological Views
Marx's Ecological Views
Marx's interest in ecological issues was neglected, due to a perception of his 'Promethean' (pro-technology, anti-ecological) advocacy for the domination of nature.
USSR's Environmental Impact
USSR's Environmental Impact
The environmental catastrophe in the USSR reinforced the conviction among environmentalists that socialism cannot establish a sustainable society.
Renewed Interest in Marxian Economics
Renewed Interest in Marxian Economics
The ineffectiveness of conventional market-based solutions to ecological issues resulted in a renewed interest in more heterodox approaches including Marxian economics
Theory of Social Metabolism
Theory of Social Metabolism
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Metabolic Rift Rooted
Metabolic Rift Rooted
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Rosa Luxemburg's critique
Rosa Luxemburg's critique
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Marx's Optimistic Assumption
Marx's Optimistic Assumption
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Marx's Perceived Flaw
Marx's Perceived Flaw
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Rediscovery of Marx's Ecological Critique
Rediscovery of Marx's Ecological Critique
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Marx: Ecologically Conscious
Marx: Ecologically Conscious
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Marx's Theory of Metabolism
Marx's Theory of Metabolism
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Marx's View of Metabolic Rifts
Marx's View of Metabolic Rifts
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Riazanov's Negative View
Riazanov's Negative View
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MEGA² Reveals
MEGA² Reveals
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Metabolism Central
Metabolism Central
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Mészáros Breaks with Orthodox Marxism
Mészáros Breaks with Orthodox Marxism
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Metabolism: Theory of Ecology
Metabolism: Theory of Ecology
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Historical Necessity vs. Natural
Historical Necessity vs. Natural
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Labor definition
Labor definition
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Humans Inseparable
Humans Inseparable
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Production increase
Production increase
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Free energy and material impacts
Free energy and material impacts
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Guano & Urbanization
Guano & Urbanization
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Wallerstein's admission
Wallerstein's admission
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Capital Needs Resources
Capital Needs Resources
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Limitations
Limitations
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Capital: Dependence
Capital: Dependence
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global disposal of capital
global disposal of capital
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Study Notes
Marx's Theory of Metabolism
- Marx's ecological interests, long overlooked, are vital in understanding today's global ecological crisis
- Initially, Marx's focus was perceived as promoting the domination of nature through technology, with environmentalism being dismissed as anti-working class
Shift in Perspective
- Soviet Union's environmental disasters, like the Aral Sea collapse and Chernobyl, questioned socialism's ability to ensure sustainability
- The collapse of actually existing socialism led to further ecological damage under neoliberal globalization
- Ineffectiveness of the market-based solutions revived the interest in Marxian economics
Rediscovering Marx's Ecology
- Istvan Mészáros's theory of social metabolism paved the way for rediscovering Marx's ecology
- Mészáros's work helped clarify the three dimensions of metabolic rift within Marx's critique of political economy
- Understanding these shifts shows why capitalism adapts to economic and ecological challenges, but never resolves underlying contradictions
Suppression and Revival of Marx's Ecosocialism
- Marx was accused of a Promethean attitude for glorifying human conquest over nature
- Critics argued Marx ignored natural limits and focused on industrial technology
- Environmentalists criticized Marx's historical materialism for failing to address environmental degradation under existing socialism
Modern Interpretations of Marx
- Despite accusations of productivism, scholars are rediscovering Marx's ecological critique
- Paul Burkett and John Bellamy Foster highlight Marx's ecological consciousness
- Marx's analysis of Justus von Liebig's theory of the robbery system of agriculture leads to the importance of metabolism
The Concept of Metabolism
- Foster explains Marx saw metabolic rifts as capitalism's consequence of distorting the human-nature relationship
- Marx highlighted the need for a qualitative transformation of production to heal the universal metabolism of nature
- Marx’s post-capitalist vision is reinterpreted as ecosocialism, overcoming the Red and Green divide
Obstacles to Recognizing Marx's Ecological Insights
- Marx's critique of political economy was unfinished, with volumes II and III of Capital published after his death
- Scholars relied on Engels's editions, overlooking Marx's study of natural sciences and environmental issues
- David Riazanov, founder of the Marx-Engels Institute, dismissed Marx's later work on natural sciences as pedantic
II. Rediscovering Marxian Ecology
- István Mészáros highlighted Marx's concept of metabolism as crucial for understanding his political economy
- Mészáros discussed environmental issues under capitalism in the 1970s, culminating in his work Beyond Capital (1995)
- In 1971, Mészáros began the first Deutscher Prize Memorial Lecture by referencing Isaac Deutscher's warning about nuclear war and then extended it to ecological destruction under capitalism
Basic Contradiction of Capitalism
- Mészáros argued that capitalism inherently links advance with destruction and progress with waste
- Capitalist production undermines the material conditions necessary for societal prosperity
- This stood in contrast to orthodox Marxism which naively promoted the development of productive forces under capitalism
Biophysical Limits
- Finite resources create limits to capital accumulation
- Capital seeks to overcome these limits, intensifying destructiveness
- Social control is needed to end capitalist waste for human survival, clashing with capitalist production’s basic logic
- He called for a qualitatively different organization of social production by freely associated producers
Marx's Concept of Metabolism and Its Suppression
- Marx defined labour relative to the metabolism between humans and nature
- Human metabolic interaction with nature is a necessity that cant be suspended and labor can only change it, not create it from nothing
- Labour and nature are essential, humans depend on nature and are constrained by natural laws
Production and Social Metabolism
- Concrete ways humans' metabolize vary significantly based on environment, like climate, location, and resource availability
- "social mediation” is needed, which is communication, norms, institutions, etc.
- These are the second-order mediations of historically specific social reproductive systems
Capitalist Production
- The valorization of capital is put above all else
- This is different to pre-capitalist societies where peoples needs came first
- Capital expands limitlessly and reorganizes the entire world
Absolute Limit of Nature
- Capital cannot overcome nature and constantly aims to relativize in its attemot to become absolute
- Capitalist organization of social metabolism is incompatible with nature, and the relationship breaks down with the fundamental problem of an asymmetrical relationship when ecological crisis happens
- Capital is now destructive and threatens all of society and the limits of capital finally become discernible
Problems of Constant Expansion
- Attempts to expand result in a destructive affect. The capital system is in decline while in only one sense is it advanced – capable of only sustaining destructive behavior
- Inspired by Lukács's theory of metabolism, Mészáros said society is part of the universal metabolism, but society beings new emergent properties and laws
III. Three Dimensions of Metabolic Rift
- Mészáros's theory was developed by John Bellamy Foster (2000) and Paul Burkett (1999) with a focus on disruption of ecological processes
- Analyses in marine ecology and climate change studies confirm Marx's theory of metabolic rift
Labor and Valuation
- Human and nature are reorganized so capital valorization can prevail
- This revolves around abstract labor, which is uniquely capitalist
- Labor and processes of nature are abstracted for the value of what abstract labor can produce
Capitalist Theory
- Value organizes the metabolism between humans and nature but cannot reflect the biophysical processes correctly
- This transformation of the material world has destructive consequences for human nature
- Based on Marx, two fundamental factors of production are problematized: labour power and natural forces
Alienation of Labor
- Alienation of labor = alienation of nature + capital effects scale of economy, space, and time
- Metabolic rift shows up in three different ways.
- disruption to natural cycles is one way
- ex. soil exhaustion from faming practices
Agriculture and Replenishment
- Capitalism means nutrients in the ground get used too quickly
- Inorganic substances are part of plant growth
- Justus von Liebig said respect "law of replenishment", that the correct ammount of nutrients are placed back in the correct place
Modern Production
- Modern production means more focus is put on short term and hurts the soll
- Market competition creates the situation of increased land usage and more resources being used
- Large scale agriculture is intensified and makes for metabolic issues and cycle disturbance
- Marx praised Liebig for noticing exploitation and the destructive side to modern farming
Capitalism Disturbs Interaction of Man and Earth
- It interrupts this by not letting important elements return and hinders a healthy soil
- This destroys parts needed for humans survival and progress
Value and The Lack There Of
- Value isn't always in full scope and is a priority of infinte accumulation
Spatial Rift
- Marx value Liebig because he offered a starting point to understanding The German Ideology and critical analysis of the social divison
- Products go to places, but what remains of the products has issues returning to original soil
- The relation of town and country can be regarded as an violent process of massive spread and wealth of the working class population in cities
IV. Three Dimensions of Metabolic Shift
- Increases in social productivity coincide with decreases in productivity thanks to exploitation
- Capital uses all tools it can access the correct amount of resources, energy food, etc.
- Marx said we should try to be at one with nature and have a goal for everyones well being
"Every Barrier Appears a Barrier to Overcome
- Capital always needs new tech, develops areas, and expands to overcome issues with new values
- They shift wealth somewhere else instead of healing something broken
- This reaction is caused by what is going on economically
- They do this instead of putting a stop to things
Shift
- There are tree ways to shift
- Technology, Spatial, and Temporal
- These are related because if one thing has problems, you just relocate
V. Rosa Luxemburg's Theory of Metabolism and Its Oblivion
- Bill McKibben said, it's not that were running out of power, were running out of what is important even faster.
- The earth's south is damaged to have things for the north
Luxemburg's Theory
- A unequal relationship is there because the people in charge just want to accumulate more and take advantage
- Luxemburg formulated on volume two that Marx assumed English capitalism wasn't dependent on the extraction and non-capitalist communities
- Marx just cared about economic expansion and his idea was to make more connections through relations
- People take up the concept of metabolism because they want it to explain an uneuqal trade Labor is not there from the start it comes from pre capitalism Capitalists need it but take more from pre existing situations and in short, ruin them and they don't share Society is there but takes at unequal portions Capitalism doesn't want intrusion
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